Jadame!, I thought MG34 got vet the quickest. |
Fast set up, nice ark, highest damage, still good suppression, and supported by Riflemen.
Lemme put it this way: 2 Rifles and 1 .50 will beat 2 LMG Grens and an HMG42 quite handily.
Vs OKW it punishes infantry spam, Kubel, and even MG34 play. T1 is useless vs Mexh though. |
Radio Silence + Sturmtiger |
The .50 Cal is in my opinion best MG ingame. Fast set up time, wide arc, and the best damage you can ask for. Use it as a maneuver element while your Riflemen act as firebase. |
Why not LT and captain? Use m20 ,LT and 50 calfor insta map control den go captain and Stuart(and then cheaper pack Howie too) to further lock things down.(1v1 only)
Also if Aaht got 400 HP like Stuart that would be good too.. Otherwise you can't really buff LT Any more than they have
With increased tech costs and call-ins tied to tech, this is actually a really good idea. Although going straight to major might be worth it just for Forward Retreat Point and the knockout punch Sherman.
An AA Track buff would be nice too tbh, but I don't know if an HP buff would be justified. |
If the tier traded AA half track for a mortar I would be happy too. I suppose we'll see if it's UP in patch. Inb4 lock |
Maybe we'll see more Bazookas being fielded to counter the light armour that might come out to deal to counter LT tech given that the weapon rack are combine. While people say bazookas suck (sort of true against actual armour), the M20 vehicle crew is already enough to deter 222s from chasing/pushing and I don't think the Flame half-track will be that difficult to deal with. Even if you don't need those bazookas, you can BAR up all those rifles with that early stockpile of munitions.
Also, LT still has the shock value of having an anti-infantry squad of the Lieutenant and the early M20 which is always a pain to deal with. Furthermore with the changes to rifle grenades which will make .50cals live longer, you've got a tier that does very well against infantry that relies less on RNG (pack howies). Should be noted LT tier is USF access to something with a sight range of 50 in the form of the M20. Keep it alive and you have something to spot for Jacksons or other ranged units.
Of course, yes it doesn't sound as good in the long run as you're saying, but LT tech generally wasn't about establishing/preparing for later stages of the game. It's meant to capitalize/gain the advantage early-mid game and has a lot more pushing power than Captain tech thanks to its cheaper light vehicles, LT, and now with the changes, the .50cal supporting rifles against the Axis infantry who would be getting their upgrades. While it's no longer as cheap for the rush to Shermans, it's very good at taking map control for those resources.
I concede that most of this is true. Bazooka Rifles supported by .50 cals may work. I still disagree about the Scout Car though. I see it as deterring against the M20 and protecting the Sniper more than anything else. (And acting as lategame flank protection/recon.)
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The fact that the 221 will now come with an autocannon kind of nullifies M20. Those 55 muni saved can equal riflenades that counter .50 cal, 1 LMG, 1 Teller mine, etc.
I'm trying to be preemptive here because I know Relic's pace. Captain tier units got buffed, price of said tier got buffed, and units that counter T1 on opposite side also has gotten buffed. (222)
All this will make USF T1 sucky in the long run, except if you go T1+T2 Armor company which is really situational for an entire tier of units.
With the FHT returning I'm really going to want AT guns too. (You could argue M20 mines on retreat paths but AT guns don't cost munitions and don't revolve on the enemy chasing you.)
Just worrying that T1 might disappear from the game with the coming changes.
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Come next patch Captain will be a no brainer as USF. Now only 10 more fuel than Lieutenant, you don't sacrifice pressure to get out more reliable units like you did before.
Stuart > M20 in pretty much everyway. Mines are nice but so is a light tank, and AT guns.
AA half track is nice vs infantry spam, but again, the buffed pack howie is too. T0 units can deal with infantry spam too.
Lack of the .50 cal is not good, but: going Airborne, boom paradrop them. Going Infantry, you have Defensive Stance. Even using a different commander, BAR rear echelons suppress in a pinch.
Finally, Captain himself is better than Lieutenant. Sure what amounts to a free Rifle squad with tech is nice, but he has no AT ability and has no synergy with other units. Captain can fasten production-useful if tank rushed or for rushing tanks- soft countering light vehicles, dealing with bunkers/mine fields, and can use On Me!
for nice attacks.
By contrast the Lieutenant apples extra pressure up until the lategame, bleeding midgame, then falls off.
No new units can be added, a mortar wouldn't fit. My proposal? Make the officer more of a caster type unit (think artillery field officer, Major, Dark Zealot) that would help him scale into the lategame while giving the whole tier some more validity in light of coming changes.
1) remove his grenades
2) 50 munitions mortar strike ability
3)vet 1 "focus fire ability" that increases received accuracy of targeted enemy unit for 30 munitions.
Make his abilities get better with vet.
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If the Major Arty got changed to a very weak but precise 82mm mortar strike, what would the cost be?
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