It takes roughly half a second more to suppress than an HMG42 - as pinning certainly takes longer to have happen than suppressing and troops can manage to crawl into some cover to further slow it down while the Vickers is otherwise totally alike to an HMG42, its ability to pin is certainly compounded to be noticeably worse than an HMG42 (and I recall pinning makes troops easier to hit, so that might also be a consideration to comparing the two's DPS [heh, remember when pinning was just something that happened to people who forgot about the retreat button?]).
Indeed, the "advantage" is not without clear risks to make it more of a distinction than a clear advantage.
At least it's got "Best range ever while in buildings", eh?
dont forget its versus 4 man squads, so a model snipe is worth much more than a mg42 killing a model.. |
I also play with a brit friend of mine. His Vickers never pins, at all. I don't know where everyone gets this idea that the thing is just as good as the MG42.
vickers is a killing machine (it kills models very fast), faster vet 1 and increased fire range while garrisoned is good tbh |
2v2 axis isn't impossible by any means, the only thing you have to do right now is counter the spam with more spam and cheese,
Ostheer - double sniper is almost a must in 2v2, this gives you firepower and works against USF and UKF extremely well (I've had games where I had around 100+ kills on double sniper against double USF)
OKW - Harder to play of course, but rushing a PzII or double obers will get you some edge, if someone thinks that you can't beat rifle blob, try 3 mg34 and double LEIG, those will stop everything that moves on two legs
But for the most part the balance right now is pretty annoying, having USF be a "little" too stronk and axis being in a disadvantage because of the exact same reason makes this game a little dull to play
everytime i try mg spam i just get smoked from all directions. never worked for me against USF |
Seems like the whole "make new account, spam balance threads leaning on one side" trend applies to Allies as well as Axis. Can we do something about this spam?
make linking a steam playercard a requieremt for creating accounts. would be funny to see whos playing the game at all |
thanks for all these numbers |
4-44 newdlc fconfirmed
with the new sdkf. 444? |
Bullsheep. The differences between usf and ostheer infantry hasn't changed much (especially not in 1vs1 and 2vs2 where vet 3 units are far less common) safe for vet 3. if you where bleeding mp then you are bleeding mp now.
The real problem back then was the usf and ostheer lategame the ostheer used the callin meta and dealing with 2 tigers with pak support was nearly impossible to counter. and guess what? rifleman being shot at by tigers will indeed bleed a lot of mp . and since the pak howie was really overpriced and bad back then the ostheer player could easily turtle.
For the okw it was the obers luch combo that caused havoc on them. with the captain route being utter shit the luchs could easily push the usf back into the base.
Bars by the way where buffed midway wfa ( i believe is sept 2014) so that makes your argument that bars got only recently buffed false and furthermore rifle flame throwers and lmg's got nerfed.
it was never the rifles that where the problem.
i find vet pretty easy to obtain ( for all factions except okw), maybe to easy and too fast tbh, i rarely think "oh nice i got a vet 3 gren/riflemen/IS, time to babysit my precious vet 3 unit so it can wreck havoc" |
You can even break that rule by crushing infantry.
everyone is praising the panthers relative strong AI in the comet vs. panther thread |
I see the thread kinda turned to Panther's intended role in the meantime, but first we need to be clear on whether or not the cost thing was satisfactorily resolved.
Things Panther has:
- Speed,
- Accelleration
- Range
- Frontal armour higher than the Tiger.
- Fantastic veterancy bonuses, starting at level 1
- Tolerable DPS versus infantry (MGs)
Things Panther doesn't have:
- Good Rate of fire
And of course people complain about what? Its rate of fire.
My question is : what else do people want for 175 fuel, exactly?
Oh and OP, I see you are active in this thread. So, can you give me a reply to this?
make a similiar list for comet for comparison ( cant comment on that, dont have brits) |
brits and weak in one sentence |