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Try? I'm dismissing them based on the general thought that the top 200 is still a small percentage compared to the big picture. Would be lovely if we had access to the entire playerbase.

Are there balance issues? Sure. Is this an accurate representation of those issues? Nope. Should some things be changed? You betcha.

Denial is great in this one.
So, in other words, you suggest we should make decisions about balance while taking in accout results of matchup of one bad player that use 30% of tools in his disposal vs another bad player using, say, 50% of tools in his disposal?

You need to separate SKILL ISSUE from FACTION BALANCE ISSUE.

You can't talk about balance until there are mistakes in your play. Otherwise, for example, you can think that *something* is OP just because you don't know how to properly counter it, despire there *IS* a counter to that *something*.

Obviously, players from top 200 make less mistakes than below 200, so there is less SKILL ISSUE and more FACTION BALANCE ISSUE.

This is why that chunk of statistics is the best source for making judjement about balance between factions and, as you said, most "accurate representation of those issues" that we possibly could get.

Also it pointed us on that fact that top 200 axis players get FREQUENTLY matched with below 200 allies players, which is another story.

It looks like upkeep cost smoothens difference in MP loss for too much.

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Possible examples

Make jagdtigers not auto-fire, but need more mouse-handlings to kill other tanks.
Make ISU have manual reload of 5 seconds, not to nerf it but to require it more skill.

I would like to know what other people have to say about this.

Thanks in advance.

1) It is simple to CTRL+1(2,3,4...) your single Jagdtiger and then just 1+RMB on enemy tank. If it got away 1+S.

2) Pretty much the same: CTRL+1; 1+RMB; 1+R(eload);

Conclusion: That will punish only bad players. Is that your intension?

Counter-suggestions:
1) Nerf heavy tanks mobility.

With mobility nerfed they can't escape that easily when they rode head on right into your defences. Not unless they took certain amount of beating.

I think that Acceleration is the thing to nerf. Maybe max speed, but just a little.
If you stopped to increase your accuracy, you should have hard time to get that enough speed to prevent flanking of medium tanks.

2) Nerf repairing time for heavy tanks.
Right now they can soak high amount of damage, repair in moderate time and get back to fight.
That makes opposite side to bleed on resources, while heavy tank user doesn't get punished. That is OK, because... that's what heavy armor done for.

But the UPTIME of heavy armor should be lower so resource bleed/time ratio would be lower too.

Want increase uptime of your heavies? Invest MP and PopCap into engineers => less heavies on the battlefield.

3) For Jagdtiger (vehicle, that don't need to close in/get back/repair no matter what are surronding landscape) make an ability that allows to fire single shot through shot blockers (not my suggestion).

With munitions income nerfed it would be a struggle between this ability, schreks upgrades and grenade uses. Which would make Jagdtiger sometimes to come out from behind of that building.

Overall conclusion:
Heavy tanks performance and useage is nerfed without nerfing any technical characteristics (damage/penetration/armor/HP), so they would be as same as powerfull for their cost, but quite harder to use and easier to lose if used wrong.

I'll just leave it here.

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They are testing a commander right now that has commissar units as a call in. All they need to do is tweak the other abilities in the commander and they should be good to go.

All you need is to add ISU-152 to that commander and it is good to go.