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Thread: Action Items: Balance Feedback Required!18 Aug 2014, 10:45 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2014, 02:17 AMNinjaWJ where is the changelog Pinned to the Lobby and the Central: http://www.coh2.org/topic/4307/company-of-heroes-2-changelog Edited to add: I just checked it and it hasnt been updated since April. Use official page here instead: http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog/page4 NOTE TO FORUM STAFF: Please update the changelog thread. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Toast to our CoH2 Crew!15 Aug 2014, 16:38 PM Romeo added to list of casters/streamers. But with a happy face! Infact, Ive never seen your face. But Ill make it happy nonetheless! In: Lobby
Thread: Toast to our CoH2 Crew!15 Aug 2014, 16:32 PM And VonKluge! Our Media-Master! For keeping da hype smart and clean! You have the patience and wisdom of a Hindu cow. Which is a good thing! (Also, cos you are orange, and we cant touch you, even if we wanted to ) (Drinks and pours half it down its shirt , cos anit drunk by now) In: Lobby
Thread: Toast to our CoH2 Crew!15 Aug 2014, 16:26 PM Inlight of Relics announcement that they are finally including Observer-mode (though its still currently in Alpha), I thought it might be time to raise our glasses in recognition of the casters who stuck with us through the thick and thin, with an arrow to the knee, and kept the community casting and especially the competetive scene alive. So please, gentlemen, join me in raising our glasses to: Tournament arrangers: -Amipolizeifunk (Our leader, forever.) -Marcus2389 (Italian hottie and CoH2 Mafiosi!) -Ipkaifung (Unsung hero. Really. If you dont know his name, you should.) -Kreatiir (Our saving grace! Rewind Event to Forward, Ho!) And other tournament arrangers, as well as co-casters, whom I will gladly add to the list once someone reminds me..! Without your work, there would be no competetive tournament scene for the upcoming ESL partnership to play off of. You guys, at the core, made all of this possible. SALUTE! o7 ______________________________________________________________ And for streaming and/or casting replays, an absolutely awesome list (in no particular order, and some who are no longer with us). Without you, what would we watch between tournaments for our vicarious CoH2 fix? Each and everyone of you has contributed to our enjoyment of the game, and our community, with your time, effort and enthusiasm. So again, gentlemen, hats off please to: Streamers/casters: -ImperialDane (Reliable as a rock) -HelpingHans (We love you, man) -StephennJF (Perfect gentleman) -Cataclaw (Never stop da streaaamm!) -Siberian (Fought hard. And always will.) -RnP (Especially Rogers, whom is awesomely returned to us!) -atre3uh (Your replay casts where first rate) -A_E (Tried to teach. Those who know, listened!) -FTN crew (Fatalsaint and Tommy) -VonIvan (Need I say more? MVGame!) -BartonPL (Showing us the latest Polish exploit!) -Jesulinn ( Cant argue with a champion!) -Lenny12346 (Banana-man) -Lemon (Cast MOAR!) -Romeo () And many, many more whom I have forgotten to mention, but will gladly add to the list with a blurb of your choice. And a big plus to up-and-coming casters/streamers! You WILL be noticed, and your contribution, appreciated. Thank you, to all of you. Without any of you, we would not be here, today, with a thriving, admittedly small, but very energetic community. BOTTOMSH UP, SIRSH! ______________________________________________________________ And finally also (but not least) thanks to CoH2.org and all staff, for making and maintaining for us a home that is free, full of fantastic function and diversity, and so we dont have to catch cancer/herpes on official boards! SALUTE, GENTLEMEN! ______________________________________________________________ But no, I lied. Bad, I know... One more toast is necessary. To us, the community. Even if you think the rest of this is absolute bullshit, atleast have a drink for yourself GARBLBLARGH! (And down the hatch). ______________________________________________________________ If you aint drunk by now from all this toasting, login and play a match in honor of our fine contributors, and yourself! If you are drunk, do it anyways... badly! PS: VonKluge: Dont touch this guy in anger, or I will visit the wrath of 10,000 Hindu Gods with many appendages upon you! PPS: I see Janne252 lurking. Few of us will ever know the techno-magick this guy has cast upon us. In: Lobby
Thread: ESL + Observer mode confirmed15 Aug 2014, 15:16 PM Are they using Jannes mod for this? In: Lobby
Thread: ESL + Observer mode confirmed15 Aug 2014, 14:56 PM Respect to those few casters who stuck with it, despite this serious handicap! I raise my hand and glass in salute to them for persevering. YOU kept the scene and especially a competetive circuit alive. YOU did that. That is your achievement, and no matter what, we owe all of you a debt of gratitudef or your efforts. Without your efforts, the upcoming ESL Cup would not have happened, as there would simply have been no scene or community left to play it for. _______________________________________ Relic: Well done to delivering a year later. Better late than never, I guess. Casters: FUCKING WELL DONE, to delivering for the entire period, despite an arrow to the knee! In: Lobby
Thread: soviet cheese15 Aug 2014, 14:07 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2014, 13:57 PMNinjaWJ i think a soviet player could say the same thing that their own faction is the core issue. I don't play ostheer so i'll take your word that there is something wrong with that faction. Since balance can affect the relationship between multiple factions, it is important to look at the unintended consequences between factions when buffing and nerfing units Well said. And I appreciate it especially because I also am a primarily (not entirely) Ost player, so I know what it means to "stick your neck out" abit in favor of overall balance, which makes you vulnerable to haters from all sides. That is good courage, and commendable. I really hope we can all get down to some real nitty gritty balance talk, without all the sarcasm and other bullshit (as I outlined in my previous post). We all want a better game, and a better balance. Lets make a real effort to consider all sides, as much and as best we can. In: Lobby
Thread: ESL + Observer mode confirmed15 Aug 2014, 13:57 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2014, 13:52 PMNoun That's the plan. If you do literally cry tears of blood please go see a doctor. Thanks. Will do. Lets hope its not necessary! Thing is, and I dunno if you where around then, but this was sort of promised a year ago, in the launch description. Back then, it was a huge thing. Forums everywhere where filled about it. Many left the game on the principle they felt cheated, and many streamers because it was just too much of an additional hurdle. It was bad. GG on finally being closish to an implementation! But make no mistake, and though we got used to it and worked around it, this has been a persistant thorn all the way since the beginning... In: Lobby
Thread: ESL + Observer mode confirmed15 Aug 2014, 13:48 PM Nice... But one year later, and when the bulk of casters and hype have already gone... And, its still in Alpha... Yay, sort of. Good job, but... I hope they truly get it sorted before their sponsored ESL tournamentas, or I will literally cry tears of blood. In: Lobby
Thread: Generals ruin the game15 Aug 2014, 13:10 PM Callins are generally considered to be a bit problematic, for sidestepping tier/tech and making non-callin Commanders quite marginal. We will have to wait see whether Relic agrees with this assesment, picks it up, and what they do with it, if at all. They made the game, they are the ones who know it most intimately, and also what resources are available for time/effort, as well as what the longer development arc entails on their side as considering other company departments. Best we can do, is poke holes and make suggestions. I think its good we moved out of "Company of Commanders" as DLC, a bit. Unfortunately, "Company of Callins" remains as a vestigal tail. The Warspoils system is very commendable for breaking the DLC cycle. It really is a cool lateral solution. Unfortunately, it also needs some tuning such as for duplicates, or perhaps a trade/craft/exchange system. I think reasonable people understand "why" there was waves of DLC Commanders. Unfortunately also, each wave generally had some bug/balance issues that for some reason made it live. Some of which are still a commumity expressed issue...Personally, I wish the tester community had more completely tested the proposals, and more vociferously expressed concerns on core issues. I worry, honestly, about what the testers spent their time and feedback on in this period. Considering the limited resources owing to an ownership change at the time. I think the DLC lineup was the best option of a buch of bad ones. That they hsd problems in balance is unfortunate, but understandable. Overall, I think Relic has done a very good job, under difficult circumstances. Consistently trying to choose and innovate a lesser evil option, and make the most of it, for us, as the community, rather than for the executive beancounters who no doubt put enormous pressure on them to just cash cash cash. Though I have no interest in SP campaigns, I have watched many streams featuring the SP devs, and these guys are absolutely giving it their damned all best. They are aware of historical facts, what is "fun", and definately have their ducks lined up. If you will pardon the term, these are proper nerds, working on a game within a game, and doing ehat would seem to be a very good job of it. You can practically see the cold sweat drops on their foreheads when interviewed, but also the tremendous pride they take in their work, as well as no end of histoeical anecdotes to explain the reasons behind their creations. MP balance devs, well, we love to hate em, but really, theyve done a solid job. And now it got quadratically harder with 2 more factions. I sometimes worry about what the testers are pouring in their ear, but I think they do still display the objectivity and independance to do as they see best for the game. Feedback is noise, a lot of it, but the buck stops with the dev. Its easy to waffle pages of whatever, but much harder to be the one who makes the actual call, and to sign your name to the change, as a professional. I for one, throw a small popcorn/beer party for every balance patch. Seriously, I actually do.I pop a beer and a bag before sitting down to read them. Its fascinating to see how the Devs vision relates to our own community perspective. Its usually bitter-sweet, depending on where your opinions lie, but imo has always been remarkably fair, and indicative of a real balance direction (though it might take several patches to become fully realised) that is held and controlled by Devs, and not subject to petty squabbles here on the community front. In: COH2 Balance