I dont think the churchill HP is the problem, i think its amazingly cheap 140 fuel price tag is, makes them rather spammable. |
I do feel FRP give too much of an advantage, especially the USF and UKF versions of it...
Unlike OKW the USF can move theirs constantly, and the UKF can build multiple retreat points + gliders...
Seems abit unfair the factions with the most artillery (Allies) have the mobile/spammable FRP's while the faction with the least artillery (OKW) has a static one.
Id rather see them limited to 1 and more static. (Have the major set up a forward command bunker or something).
The issue isnt the FRP its the way the allied ones are superior to the OKW one... while having more access to artillery to further punish.
If Wehrmacht and soviets were given one, would have to be limited to one and static too... |
Best duo combo for 2v2 : Sov + Birt
For 3v3 and 4v4 : Brit + Any Sov with marked target.
(After 17th patch, USF will also be very strong in 3v3 and 4v4 mixed with marked target).
Axis are/will be on the backfoot now in all game sizes, as of 6 hours time. |
Wait 2 days until patch lands. Theyre getting better. |
I agree. While I am happy to see the SU76 finally being useful after 2 years or so, its a bit over the top at the moment. Fast as hell, free barrage, same pen as SU85 and very similar reload time.
The way it is right now its an SU85 that can clear out fortified positions and paks(especially cause the barrage seems to outrange paks) and wipe the occasional squad if you looked away for a moment to micro somewhere else.
While the free barrage still makes me cringe(no ability in this game should be free) it is still somewhat ok. Just make it like 5 or 10 munitions. Still cheaper than the pak barrage that does exactly the same thing for 60(?) munitions and still very spammable. Dont see the problem with it and SU need a munition sink anyway, at least when theyre not spamming guards and 10 fire barrages.
Biggest problem, however, is how similar the unit is to the SU85. The biggest 2 differences are health and armour. While health can be an issue if youre not careful and constantly babysit your su76, its not too much of an issue since the unit outranges pretty much anything its supposed to counter. So proper micro will keep the unit out of harms way, making health mostly meaningless, unless youre dealing with sneaky shreck blobs. And armour, well. Does it matter at this point? A panther will flat out 100% pen both an SU76 and SU85 and while the P4 doesnt get 100% on the frontal armour of an SU85, it still does the job reliably(besides, why engage a tank destroyer from the front when you got a turret yourself...).
So to me, as someone who rarely touches SU, it wouldnt make any sense to tech up and replace the 76 by the 85. 76 is cheaper and the only differences between the units are negligible when it comes down to it.
I will go in line with what most ppl have said, and vote for a decrease in pen, making it reliably pen a p4 and below and having issues with the frontal armour of heavies and panthers. 180 pen should be suffient. That way it can 100% pen a a p4 but will have a 60% chance or so for the panther, sort of forcing your hand to upgrade to the 85, unless you already got tons of zis supporting your 76 or you got the shit mined out of the map. Oh and Id also like to see the aforementioned price on the barrage ability. Doesnt have to be huge and 10 muni seems negligible compared to the 60 of the zis, when both abilities are essentially doing the same thing and the 76 can bail within seconds, unlike a zis.
Pretty much this!
+1
Well thought out and reasonable. |
We should make a "Bring back Eindhoven!" petition...
That was like the most balanced 1v1/2v2 map in the bloody rotation. |
Thread: Kyle_RE15 Sep 2015, 19:29 PM
Not that his predecessors were much competition...
But yeah hes doing a far better job so far.
Keep it up! |
How did you miss out pussyking.
Thats like... heracy in the religion of Allied-fanboys |
Wow i see, well, i guess the croco needs nerfing OpieOP .
Make it cheaper though Kappa .
Its currently prob the best spent 180 fuel in the game, instantly microwaving infantry and pak crews, with a gun still capable of dealing with medium tanks and more HP than anything else. |
as their only form of indirect fire... and since stukkas only tickle emplacements... and the OKW dont have flamethrowers...
Im inclined to say the Lieg is fine and a necessary tool. |