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Thread: Early game for Ost28 Apr 2015, 02:57 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 22:31 PMJHeartless Agreed. Get rid of the Officer. Instead unlock BAR, Grenades and Zooks upon LT tech or Captain tech. We can then call it a day. I would say the LT and the Captain are at least worth 375MP and 55 Fuel. The Stuff Ostheer gets with teching. Also please allow upgrades in the field. I'm ok with tech unlocking upgrades,both bazookas and bars.smoke needs to be bought due to its power.No problem with upgrades on field either..its a superficial disadvantage made much of.Wehr too has to retreat pios to build. But the free officer must go.Its the main cause of imabalance along with fast light vehicle. USF can't be allowed to have autoatic earlygame quantitative AND qualitative superiority.Period.Which is why free lieutenant must go. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost27 Apr 2015, 16:58 PM Free lieutenant is the worst design feature with BAR.As long as it exists along with rifle dominance over grens,matchup will remain broken.Because this ensures usf have BOTH number advantage AND quality advantage..which is too much. Early light vehicle and ost teching is clincher.2nd problem can be addressed with small teching adjustments easily. First problem is fundamental,usf simply can't have free squad with BAR if rifles also completely outperform grens.Thats why the 'free' thing has to go.Lieutenant needs to cost a pair in time and price just like ost tech. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost27 Apr 2015, 16:51 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2015, 16:00 PMJHeartless Just wanted to point out Armored Skirts. Without it the M20 will die to Pios. It too is an upgrade that costs alot of Early Muni that also gets Countered by the 222 upgrade. M20 coming early is problematic on open maps. Not so much on urban maps. And ever see it trying to kill something in Green cover? LOL I'm not interested in map argument.Heard it too many times,nothing's changed,nothing will.Either make faction viable on all maps or don't bother with lame arguments .M20 can be anything it wants to be as long as it comes 1.5-2 mins later. And free lieutenant needs to go.The anerican earlygame doesn't need it,its already overwhelming qualiitatively it doesn't need automatic quantitative superiority without any effort on top of that. These 2 changes will fix problem. Or u can keep m20 as it is but reduce ost teching. But either way early free lieutenant with BAR and thompson has to go .Period. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost26 Apr 2015, 16:58 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 16:53 PMKatitof Diversify? In what way? Why would I want Stuart over M15 like... ever? Its better AT then stuart and its amazing AI as well, it have better chances against Puma then Stuart. Why would I want M20 much later, when field if littered with hardcounters? Much cheaper 222 hardcounters it single handedly and arrives at similar time. HMG incendiary rounds hardcounter it and HMG doesn't have problems with getting to vet1 right now. At long range it does pitiful damage(lower then 221, comparable to conscripts) and at close range you have pfausts. M20 is a shock unit. Take it away from it and you might just as well take it from the game. Right now the 'shock' unit combined with free LT has shut down ost earlygame.So shock has gone overboard. 222 doesn't hardcounter it at all...this is because ..u need upgrade...t2 comes later than m20...bazooka crew lols@any attempt to try and finish it off...a clever player will crew m20 with RE and get bazooka squad often to accompany it...can laymines to 1 shot222 if it wants...pzfausts are usually useless due to small range and slow animation plus m20 crew repair asap. mg42..needs vet..long animation..unless enemy is noob its not going to work..he'll move out of range or arc easily. On top americans will not only outnumber you they will also outgun you.Its hilarious where usf is designed to have BOTH quantitative and qualitative superiority over ost for fun. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?26 Apr 2015, 16:44 PM Lol compare guards to obers now.U'll get the picture. As for those laughing at grens being standard infantry,well its not like we can get anything better u know.You would if u played ost. You ofc have ur guards and shocks or paras. Even more than guards its bullshit its conspam PTRS,especially in teamgames.Iwipe 120 mm,iwin is-2 = too much soviet bullshit cheese to tolerate=game not worth playing as ost as far as i'm concerned. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Relic, you gonna fix 120mm, or not?26 Apr 2015, 16:38 PM I once stole a 120 mm from sov guy.Put it near OKW base for cover under a mg. USF teammate of soviet was cursing him throughout as his rifles started feeling the heat. But thats abt it,ur NEVER going to steal it more or less against a serious opponent.Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost26 Apr 2015, 16:32 PM Free lieutenant is most absurd thing.BAR and thompson free for 5 man squad...noob designer who thought of this while giving usf ultra cheap teching. Lieutenant should cost a hefty amount in MP. Make m20 come abt 2 mins later or reduce ost teching cost and time to t2. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: m36-Jackson is over performing26 Apr 2015, 08:01 AM What us needs is no free lieutenant to outnumber by default and push back m20 2 mins from current 5 min bullshit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost26 Apr 2015, 07:59 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 06:56 AMTheMachine That being said, Ostheer and OKW late game is still rediculous compared to USF late game, really needs to be more balanced and fair over all. Every faction should have equal chances of winning at any stage in the game. And Vet5 or Tigers in their current form is always going to prevent that. Tigers?really?Its fodder for is-2,jackson and skillplane currently.Tank is a joke..glorified pz 4. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Early game for Ost26 Apr 2015, 04:48 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2015, 04:39 AMTea Maker Machine Buffing OST will break the SU faction. Rubbish,soviets are the strongest faction the game.They don't even need to tech these days,just stall for is-2 with zis..maybe occasionally get katyushas.PTRS bullshit,120 mm iwipe,is-2 iwin....lol...'break' soviets..Don't make me laugh. In: COH2 Balance

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