That's why we are saying that cost should be reduced.
At this performance cost is 150 fuel if e8 is 135 and 1-2 shots infantry too and t-34/85 at 130 furl plus both costing 100 plus manpower less than panther.Panther's DPS is so shit along with its accuracy i'll never use it.why use a tank that has LESS DPS than pivs,even worse accuracy and no AI almost.Total shit tank in tank killing role,its a glorified meatshield.
U can nerf 50 range..it'll miss half the time anyway and needs spotter..which is useless in actual 'tank -hunting role'.If i want to use it defensively with spotter for range i'll get a pak thank u. |
If Panther would be cheaper in Team Games then again German Tank Spam, pls look at that. Opel Blitz+Luftwaffen Commander is really strong. There are many mighty combinations possible if u play Germans
Opel blitz is dead in team games.Luftwaffe only benefits 1 teammate,without panther ostheer has 1 lategame tank-tiger ,its been six months like that...faction has become extremely boring and one dimensional. |
As long as it has less DPS than panzer 4 coupled with its zero utility vs inf and at guns,its not an option because whats the use of a tank hunter that can't kill tanks .
As for its pricing thats just last nail in the coffin. |
sounds fun to use a ISU-152 against you.
It is,but sadly most soviet players get really upset for some reason when i flame them hard.They can't digest the fact that they deserved zero credit for the game. |
Okay I just checked the replay. You didn't lose because of the ISU-152. You lost the moment you decided to go for tier 4. By the time you got your Panther you could've had 3 Panzer IVs, which would've helped you to to destroy that T34 and those pesky Maxims, and could then have easily gang banged the ISU-152.
Pro-tip: Get P4s. They're awesome. Panthers are not.
Added bonus: P4s into Tiger is actually a viable thing. Panthers into Tiger just won't happen, that's too much fuel. Since you only picked doctrines with Tigers, that may be valuable to you.
On the game,spot on. |
You make it sound as if th OKW get no other anti-armor. The alpha damage of three Shrek volks van bring a T34/76 down to a hair of death.
1 Shreck volks and joke raketen can't do jack vs well microed multiple medium tanks of t-85/m4c class or even plain old t-34 spam kiting...and what was his shock infantry doing?if he was blobbing volks?An OKW player survives straight to KT and u didn't exploit that is just bad play. |
just lost another game to the King Tiger after winning or at least being on par with my opponent all game out comes the King Tiger kills everything without taking any damage and goes on to win the game as I surrender out. seriously either remove ALL heavy tanks or just fix this thing. how is this fun? how does this make for an enjoyable game experience? I was having lots of fun until the King Tiger came out. it was a good even matchup but I was just edging him out, I even tried to go T-34s for fast flanking of the King Tiger because I knew it was coming. but the old mine everything and at guns everywhere screwed that up.
U can get 4 mediums before he gets king tiger..also what were u doing whole game when he had no armor as he teched and saved for KT? |
Just flame him brutally whenever u see this unit used,flame all isu users. |
Soviets also have t-34/85 which is a excellent medium tank,the pair can swarm and kill the tiger..especially with mark target.
With is-2 and t-34/85 even without isu soviets have 2 excellent options which can be supplemented by su-85s from the back or m4c shermans which is another good medium tank.
When ostheer is doing without ELefant,and relies only on tiger as its lategame tank which is basically equal or even slightly inferior to is-2 i don't see why soviets need both,plus the superb medium tanks call-in.is-2 is such a massive pain in the ass with its armor,if there's 2 they seem immortal.Even KT can't always penetrate them.
Jagdtiger-i agree,isu,elefant,jagd must be balanced together..leaving 1 while others are nerfed out breaks it.This is why i proposed make them 1 builadble at 15 cp and give them back the old range.1 godly unit comes very late,so not an auto appearnace every game..but a fearful presence with high risk and reward potential.
King tiger - So many soviet players fight this head on.Because they have gotten used to penetrating tiger and panther at close ranges frontally,many try this and fail badly.Its turret weakness is rarely exploited .Thing is this thing is so costly by the time OKW gets this allies can have 4 of their medium call-ins if their unit preservation was good.If they can't swarm its tortoise turret with that thats bad.
The difference between stock and call-in armor is too large in coh 2.
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The only way to fix ISU,Jagdtiger and Elefant is to cap them to 1 buildable like the ace,put at 15 CP but give them back their old ranges.High risk-high reward unit that comes very late.No isu spam.
You better protect those supertank destroyers with dear life,coz once u lose them ur done. |