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And yet they failed to balance them as infiltration units and so they spawn with full squad members and elite weapons contrary to Infl. commandos/stormtroppers.
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nope
Yes falls outclass commandos
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nope
they lose at long and short range with 2 bren
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nope they still win at vet 5 vs 3 i did my test
If you give commandos 2 Bren they win on long range only when both units vet 0, when falls reach vet 2 its 50:50, both on vet 3, falls win
and commandos with bren lose always on short range.
But Remember 390 Mp, 90 Mun, 35 Mp reinforce, 9 pop, small gammon bomb, smoke nade
vs
320 MP, 60 Mun, 36Mp reinforce, 9 Pop, bundle nade, Faust, blend grenade
They 5 man commando squad for 390 Mp without bren win always (with 3 Men casualties) on super short range.
So falls are cheaper and the better all rounder unit
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Are any of these tests taking into account the ambush bonus? Then FG42s are beasts, is a 1 on 1 where they can pick the terms (via camo) adding in that ambush bonus tips the scales handily does it not? Of course commandos also have ambush camo so in that instance I suppose it matters more who ambushes who Right?yep tho bren don't get the bonus
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nope they still win at vet 5 vs 3 i did my test
https://imgur.com/a/it0USWy
commando are 350 mp btw the extra 40 is for the glider
btw u just need to increase cost to 340 mp and munition to 80
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don't worry u also forgot okw has that cost in the tech
And how do you get commandos for 350 Mp? Right get a 540 mp Glider before
And i also forget the weapon rack upgrade cost
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don't worry u also forgot okw has that cost in the tech
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don't worry u also forgot okw has that cost in the tech
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Sidetech vs free stuff from teching...
Why is it that axis somehow gets free shit from teching while the allies have to sidetech to get the goodstuff :v
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Because calling Glider is comparable to techiching? Also this entire thread is retarded, Commandos with brens should shred Falls at any ranges as they come later and require much higher investment than Falls to reach same power levels and scale worse with vet and you can't spam 3-4 squads of them casually like people do with Falls.
Anyway a squad that can win against dedicated long range units such as paras and guards and at the same time win against elite CQC units like rangers while having bundle, WP, stealth, ambush, faust and paradrop is the ultimate joke, one can argue that this time balance team went farther than JLI
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Just how they want to hamstring allied factions.
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Yea agree that their faust ability makes them more potent, but those gaurds you mentioned have smoke nades which comes very handy. MG spam against falls are very effective too.
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yeah requires 30 muni more but you get brens way faster than falshims can get their lmgs
and you can't afford more than 1-2 falshims as well as commandos until very late gamee, if opponent is equally skilled
well i am talking from 1v1 point of view, maybe in 4v4 it's another story
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And yet they failed to balance them as infiltration units and so they spawn with full squad members and elite weapons contrary to Infl. commandos/stormtroppers.
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u know a glider only cost 40 mp and is basically a reinforce bunker that cost 125 mp + 60 mun ?
The Glider needs to go away as a mechanic all together. Got what a damn waste of man power.
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Oh am sorry? Since when is svt an elite weapon? That squad alone costs 380 mp and spawns with semi automatic so has no wiping potential or ambushing. Has no stealth. Has normal guard lackluster grenade. And a bunch of gimmicky abilities . Which do no damage whatsoever.
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they don't
Commandos cost much more MU and MP than Falls so it's obvious it shouldnt even be a contest between those 2 squads, Commandos arent the issue here. The issue is that Falls beat LMG paratroopers at their prefered range which is retarded, same as shredding rangers which cost more and forced into close range to deal damage while having none of the utility of Falls.
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