allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2019, 14:44 PMflyingpancake

Thank you, I spend a good while thinking about it.
Correct me if im wrong but is soviet tier1/2 not a the moment the other factions get their first tech building up? So the PPSH would come at the same time as the MG42/STG. Maybe they could be bundled with the grenades like so:

Conscript utility upgrade:
PPSH41
Molotov
AT nade

200 manpower
50 fuel

Maybe adjust the pricing of the PPSH accordingly in this case.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2019, 14:44 PMflyingpancake

Thank you, I spend a good while thinking about it.
Correct me if im wrong but is soviet tier1/2 not a the moment the other factions get their first tech building up? So the PPSH would come at the same time as the MG42/STG. Maybe they could be bundled with the grenades like so:

Conscript utility upgrade:
PPSH41
Molotov
AT nade

200 manpower
50 fuel

Maybe adjust the pricing of the PPSH accordingly in this case.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2019, 11:56 AMBlueKnight

Sounds good, especially the Advanced Warfare IL2 attack replacement. Soviet Reserve would still be trash though. Tank hunter partisans suck, ML20 is very situational, Conscript Repair Kit is meh. Only the 7th man combined with For Mother Russia would be a replacement for elite infantry and that's about it for that doctrine imho. You'd be better picking any doctrine with Guards. Honestly, picking a doctrine that has "reserve" in its name already suggests that you pick it if there is nothing else available.

Soviet Irregulars - Battle hardened partisans formed of Red Army soldiers encircled during Barbarossa. They are equipped with stolen enemy weapons.
3x Obersoldaten Kar 98k
1x Grenadier LMG 42
Throw Stielhandgranate

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2019, 22:08 PMMr. Someguy

Soviet Irregulars - Battle hardened partisans formed of Red Army soldiers encircled during Barbarossa. They are equipped with stolen enemy weapons.
3x Obersoldaten Kar 98k
1x Grenadier LMG 42
Throw Stielhandgranate

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2019, 23:36 PMflyingpancake

I don't know man, I feel like having another tanky long range unit kinda overlaps with guards too much. What I would say that soviets need is commando style ambush infantry. Maybe a rework like mine would be interesting

Irregulars 300MP 17MP reinforce:
Decent cooldown time to prevent spam

3x Mosins (Conscript model)
3x KAR89k (Volksgrenadier model)
spawn in buildings
Ambush camo (only in cover like the one from Wher Jaeger doctrine)
Molotov (needs tech)
AT grenade (needs tech)
vet 1 PMD6 anti personnel mine (the one from defensive doctrine)


can upgrade for 100 muni:
3x PPSH (Conscript model)
3x MP40 (Assault Grenadier model)
upgrade to commando camo (when moving slowly)

Their veterancy should be scaled in such a way that they start out weak and only in a support and sabotage role and get progressively stronger at combat for example

Vet 1 PMD6 anti personnel mine and cooldown bonus

Vet 2 Increase squad survivability and ambush damage

Vet 3 Accuracy bonus

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2019, 04:09 AMMr. Someguy

They have Guards, but those are only above-par rather than feeling very elite, their rifles are only on-par with Volksgrenadiers,