What i dont get, why even touch fallshrims, they were perfectly fine before the patch.by perfectly fine u meant UP ?
Fallschirmjäger is very OP!
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What i dont get, why even touch fallshrims, they were perfectly fine before the patch.
Because Overwatch with free vision flares + JLI + best skillplanes in the game that insta pin and kill tanks and also Spec Ops with the call-in command panther and uncounterable recon and 15 MU granade avalanche were overshadowing the Luftwaffe so people didn't play it. This appears to have been good enough reason to buff Fallschirmjager. They were pretty expensive pre-patch but were excellent anyway. For some reason nobody talks about the infiltration commandos that cost an arm and a leg to call-in and then reinforce, it's 370+2x35=440 MP to have fully operational commandos. I remember seeing pre-patch Falls with ~60 kills. They were always good, but they had to compete with Obersoldaten for attention and Obers have also always been excellent.
Also handbrake is broken on 251 HT for OST, doesn't work atm. Also I noticed that several tanks I shot several times each with pak40 on ice and none of them sank. It was Oka river (winter). Dunno, maybe another bug.
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It was not good in any range, no point really in using it before.
Now it is better except it got quite some unnecessary buffs which the Vet (that enhances the performance more than necessary).
Vet is the current issue since it stacks its efficiency more significantly.
Nerf vet and I think it would be more fair and square.
Since Vet 0, it does loose to different kinds of Allies elite units, so its not OP but when it Vets, that is the problem.
Vet bonuses need to be looked at and adjusted accordingly.
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FG42s are automtic rifles, like the BAR. Actually theyre one of the most advanced weapons of WW2, and had virtually no recoil despite firing the powerful 7.92x57mm cartridge even in fully automatic from the standing posture. An inline stock and quality muzzle brake help with this.
The internals of the gun would go on toninlfuence the M16 and the M60 post-war. It was way ahead of its time for WW2, but very few were made and issued, and of course only to Fallschirmjager units.
Whats wierd is CoH lets you get 4 per squad, but CoH is worse for realism than that in many more ways.
The FG42 was an awesome weapon, way ahead of it's time. It was much better than a BAR being much lighter and more controllable. It makes perfect sense for Fallschrimjagers to be able to fire on the move, in fact it would be dumb not to have it that way.
Are Fallschrimjagers they OP right? Maybe, I haven't faced them yet but I did use them to stomp a USF player the other day. I only built Strums and Kubels until they make available them called in 3 units.
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The changes were necessary.no vet is fine, they lose to commando at vet 5
It was not good in any range, no point really in using it before.
Now it is better except it got quite some unnecessary buffs which the Vet (that enhances the performance more than necessary).
Vet is the current issue since it stacks its efficiency more significantly.
Nerf vet and I think it would be more fair and square.
Since Vet 0, it does loose to different kinds of Allies elite units, so its not OP but when it Vets, that is the problem.
Vet bonuses need to be looked at and adjusted accordingly.
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no vet is fine, they lose to commando at vet 5
You managed to lose with pioneers in a CQC test vs regular pathfinders. I don't trust you with tests anymore.
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......... i posted them look above
You managed to lose with pioneers in a CQC test vs regular pathfinders. I don't trust you with tests anymore.
Btw just so u know, pathfinder have carbine which have almost double the close range dps than pioneers mp 40s , instead of being an asshole do ur test , and check stats
Sometimes ur biased opinion might get in the way
U and kirrik should prove something before saying someone else test are rigged cause they don’t like the outcome
U better check that anti vaxxer /flat earther mentality of “test are only ok if they fit my narrative”
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Falls too OP but Shocks, Rangers and Paratroopers are OK. Makes sense.
And btw in that video you lost to players with better rank and players that didn't even use Falls. So not sure what your point is?
Shocks are useless right now. They are no longer in that 'sweet spot' anymore. Especially after the buffs to ass grens, and falls. They are performing lackluster.
Also svt conscripts are performing better than airborne guards. Like what the hell?
My opinion is that if they want to keep this OP falls damage output then they need to take away panzerfaust. Otherwise they are literally shredding everything.
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You managed to lose with pioneers in a CQC test vs regular pathfinders. I don't trust you with tests anymore.
Pathfinders have deceptively high close range damage with their carbines.
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need to nerf far dps and first strike bonus
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In late game they are very strong against infantry but still very vulnerable to random wipes from arty and vehicles. At 2 CP without the extra FGs and vet they are underwhelming compared to Allied call-in infantry that arrives at the same time.
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it was not their price, it was the doctrine itself and the weak performance in combat. in 4v4 u have to fight vs large blobs and falls have never a chance to get in close range for a fight they can win. the buff was really needed, the new gun is a good answer and finally the falls can do some effective damage on mid range.
i was yesterday playing falls and nobody on the allied side was complaining. I guess when u play lvl 16+ the ppl are relaxed because they know how to counter them. most of the haters here are low lvl players which have no idea what to do vs a falls blob, thats all.
allies dont need to cry, falls are weak at beginning and just get their guns in late game which is fair enough if u see the new buffs for rifleman and have to face brit blobs and maxim spamm. also falls are really weak to any medium tank, they die way to fast.
all in all this buff was needed to give the whole doctrine a new meaning, otherwise it would be still just not used. im just wondering if they will nerf them back because of all the crying now on allied side. if they do it, doctrine is dead again......
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I like how many of the people saying that falls are fine are known to have axis bias or have axis dp's... or bothbut all here saying they need a little price increase tho ?
i know u need to build ur victim persona but .......
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