Panzerfusiliers Need Adjustments

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 12:31 PMStug life

no u clearly wrote pfusi have more dps than cons test show pfusi only win some times at long range and lose at all other ranges

u simply don't want to say "yea im biased"

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 12:49 PMKatitof

What is higher?

Range: 5, 15, 25 and 35

Cons: 18, 13,5, 10,2 and 6,3
Or
PFs: 17, 14, 11,9 and 9,3

1) If you will fight at most optimal distance for cons, you're going to have a bad day.
2) PFs DPS is objectively higher.
3) These numbers should give you a rough idea about the distance at which you should engage cons
4) With your methodology, its very easy to proof that grens are weaker then cons despite everyone knowing that match up is fine

Holy fuck, I'm going to recover for days from that IRONY brick drop.

Okay, so I did some testing:
PF vs Cons, all tested in at least triplicates if not stated otherwise, vet 0, no cover
range 0-10: Cons win clearly (usually 30% health left)
range 20: Cons win reliably (they won all fights, but one barely and the rest much closer)
range 30: Cons won 1/6 fights, PF won 2 reliably, 3 clearly. This happened even though I allowed Cons to model snipe PF by bad PF positioning in the first three runs

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 12:52 PMStug life

if having a nad dday means droping 3-4 model or wining at long rnage ok

exactly, if fine cause they cost the same , now which unit her cost 40 more mp ?

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 12:54 PMKatitof

The one that had utilities rolled into its own cost while other have to pay to unlock it, bloating its cost that way.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 12:55 PMStug life

like urrah and sand bag vs at nade ?

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 13:01 PMKatitof

Remind me how much damage both of these do compared to at nades and regular nades?

I have lost my "sandbag and really loud yelling DPS sheet" and don't know the numbers off my head.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 14:14 PMKatitof

Yeaah, that's what happens if you have a T4 vehicle in your T3(panther).
Also none of the 3 you mentioned get to be rewarded with superheavy once fully teched, so yes, its well justified in terms of cost.

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 14:25 PMStug life

nobody mentions, vehicle crew form the start, 25 pounders , etc

we can see what is a faction perk and a cost in tech

Jump back to quoted post29 Aug 2019, 13:59 PMStug life

and btw to kat and all the other nay sayer , Hanibbal trying to prove me wrong saying okw doesn't pay for upgrades actually proved me right

fuel need to reach tank tier rushing

su 165

usf 165 (with ambulance)

ukf 125

okw 185 (with medic)

now if we add optional upgrade of the live patch

su 185 (at nade and molo)

usf 195 but has better weapon and smoke

ukf 185 weapon nades AND bolster, which is not even needed and is just a plus

conclusion okw pays the upgrade like all others (and ukf is actually the one that get free stuff)

to further add okw had even a mpre expensive full tech tree as they need to pay 60 fuel for mech and 15 more fuel for repair squad