Soviet September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 23:02 PMWiderstreit

With Maxim-buff a 5men squad will be large enough.

Maxim blobs become popular at the moment again, even without changes.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 19:27 PMinsaneHoshi

And the above can as likely wipe the 4 man squad. Loosing 3 men on a MG42 and forcing a retreat is a worse situation than losing 3 men with a maxim and forcing a retreat. If a model dies on the retreating maxim, it might get stuck in the deathloop and the unit may die. If a model dies on the retreating MG42, the unit will die.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 23:15 PMthedarkarmadillo

Not necessarily. Again, assuming cons get a look at, namely a price reduction, say 220mp and then the actual cost would remain unchanged, but multi maxim strats would become costly. You would need to balance it with cons or lose the whole map.

Also maxims made functional is required of course.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 01:20 AM13greed47

IMHO one of possible ways to deal with penal meta - split penals on 2 upgrades:

1. Squad with ppsh and satchels - close combat unit.
2. Squad with ptrs and AT-satchels and some AT-ability - at-hunters

Penals must become support units for cons. Not main damage dealers. Cons became main infantry unit.

Because right now, both roles exist in one unit. That also one of reasons why you can play only through penals.
by Maret

why not do it for cons instead? would give cons other purpose then merge and snare

i really love tank hunter commander all is ability are unique except the arty piece at cons just give a new life and purpose to a unit that is barely play

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 00:06 AM13greed47

infiltration commando. would have a word with you.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 03:03 AMgbem

Remove the deathloop first then we can consider 5 man maxims

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 09:36 AMWiderstreit

Deathloop, like all support-weapons have?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 09:39 AMgbem

your comment clearly shows that you have no idea on what the deathloop truly is....

no only 3 machineguns have the deathloop

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 10:18 AMgbem

the deathloop occurs when the gunner model dies and the troops have to do a pickup animation that delays their movement/retreat... machineguns aside from the 3 mentioned instead teleport the machinegun from 1 model to another... the difference here is that when the gunner model

unfortunately no... the deathloop is a coding error with the game... and the maxim unfortunately is the machinegun that has the worst pickup animation of all machineguns... soo its wiped quite regularly even with its 6 man crew

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 11:11 AMgbem

mg42s vickers and mg34s do not suffer from the death loop

only the maxim DSHK and 50 cal do

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 11:27 AMgbem

it IS a bug... and it MAKES the maxims survivability lower than what you would expect from a 6 man machinegun

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 11:24 AMWiderstreit

You don't have to repeat yourself the hole time, we got it. Back to the root, it is how the blue-print works and no bug.

I/We understand it isn't fine how it works, I will look at it, to find a work-around.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 12:11 PMMaret

It became a bug when it became problem. Snipers in clowncar - were bug or problem? It was coded that snipers can sit inside vehicle, but was reworked.