September Balance Patch preview [SPBP] - general discussion

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 01:42 AMmrgame2

Heavy crush to comet..not sure how 4 man ost can handle...

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 11:00 AMullumulu

where is instead a normal 60 range like other at guns and a green cover for models??

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:03 PMDangerous-Cloth

Hm I don't know about the split Schwere tech for OKW, especially having to rebuy the Panzer Authorization after you lose the schwere. As someone already pointed out, one of the main reasons people went with the Command p5 call in was because losing your schwere and rebuying it is way too big of an investment when having to buy a tank afterwards.

You guys basically take away the symptom whilst adding to the problem. That is literally allopathic medical world logic right there.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 11:46 AMKatitof

At wehr.

Why do you want to make OKW identical to ost?
There already are barely any differences between them as is.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:08 PMLago

The net cost of the split SPHQ is the same.

Without the Jagdpanzer IV in the first half I think it's a little pointless, but it doesn't hurt in any way. You get LMG-less Obers a hair faster.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:14 PMDangerous-Cloth

That is the point, it does cost the same as before. However, you now have NO choice when it comes to rebuiding it at full price, as the command p5 is gone (good nonetheless). This means the symptom, command p5 crutching and preference is gone and dealt with, but the real main cause of this, is still here: full on price to rebuild schwere and then having to build a tank again. That is way too expensive. This means no aggressive schwere placement ever again and it just sitting in base.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:03 PMDangerous-Cloth

As someone already pointed out, one of the main reasons people went with the Command p5 call in was because losing your schwere and rebuying it is way too big of an investment when having to buy a tank afterwards.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:12 PMullumulu

it would be ok if the get grenn cover Bonus, 60 range and still have 4 models. or 5/6 model with no cover Bonus.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:21 PMLago

I think you're oversimplifying the Command Panther problem a bit, but I get the sentiment.

I personally think it should be a 60/60 fuel split, and the JPIV should be in the first half.

That gives Battlegroup builds decently fast access to a solid anti-tank vehicle, solves the long standing JPIV/Panther redundancy problem, and gives OKW players who lose their SPHQ a second comeback option instead of just the King Tiger.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 12:34 PMSander93

No one is forcing players to build their SPHQ on the front line though. If you like producing tanks, then put it somewhere safe or somewhere you're certain you can defend it. There's no need to continue to give OKW a free map denial tool without a big risk attached to it. And OKW still has the now improved King Tiger if they lose the SPHQ, anyway.

• Swap models of Schwerer Panzer Headquarters and Mechanized Regiment Headquarters.
  
• Gun stats on Mechanized Regiment Headquarters changed to match buildable OKW Flak Emplacement.
  
• Gun must be upgraded to enable it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 18:38 PMStug life

can i ask what the point of this ?
Cost from 200MP/120 to 100/80; unlocks Obersoldaten and the doctrinal Hetzer; Obersoldaten upgrades locked behind Panzer Authorization.

nobody is gonna build it for penals for 80 fuel (mg is still locked in the last tier) as they are literally the only unit in that tier

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2019, 13:17 PMBalanced_Gamer

I do not know if Obers can do much of an effect without the MG.

Is it actually good without the MG, what do you guys think?