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I hope you understand that you made a mistake by choosing the USF several times in the Masters Cup. I don’t know what you wanted to prove with such a risky step.
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If your Rifles always lose to Volks, the problem is you, and not the Rifles.
Panzer tactician is no different than a skill shot. Hardly a "Free" get out of jail card.
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1) It was an isolated point. The LMG42 is stronger than the 1919, because it replaces a stronger rifle.
2) And that's why 1919 Riflemen perform better than LMG42 Grenadiers.
3) My point is: 1919 Riflemen have the possibility to scale further with BAR, LMG42 Grens don't.
The 1919 upgrade is fine, I can give you ingame tests and a full comparison between all the stats if you want, but you could just take my word on it. The problem is that the 1919 comes in okay-ish doctrines which have abilities that are in much more need of a buff than the 1919. For example:
- M5, comes too late at 3 CP to have an impact.
- P-47 suppression strafe, extremely overpriced compared to the Ostheer strafe equivalent.
- Time on Target, one of the slowest arty strikes ingame, only useful to destroy OKW bases.
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I say this. In a shootout with the grenadiers, the riflemans hardly have one model left.
I repeat, the Riflemans + m1919 hardly save one model in a shootout with grenadiers + mg34. Is this a balance?
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I wanted to see if it was possible to win with them in the current patch. Sadly that was not the case
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- That is, USF to pay 40 more manpower.
- Then to choose a doctrine
- Must wait 2 or 3 sp
- Must pay 70 muni for m1919
- Buy weapon racks for additional manpower and fuel.
- Buy a bar for 60 munis.
All this I have to do so that the Riflemans could be more productive against greens for 240 mp?
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That's 1 point I agree with, the 1919 should be 2 CP instead of 3 CP, so they have similar timing as the LMG42. Their performance/cost is fine however. Yes, 1919 Rifles beat LMG42 Grens at all ranges.
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I wanted to see if it was possible to win with them in the current patch. Sadly that was not the case
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well, definitely not if someone picks a doctrine just for a single squad of cavalry riflemen
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That'd be a pretty hefty buff.
Then again, it's not like Infantry Company/Tactical Support Company are especially competitive, and RET strats got blown out of the water by the Assgren buffs.
So maybe a hefty buff for the better?
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Me and devm talked briefly about it, but i think it just comes down to a main core issue, rifles can't trade. it pretty much pigeonholes you into an mechanized army, hopefully the coming rifle buffs fixes things but i have a feeling it might make the faction extremely strong, as most the vehicles usf has is really strong, and in tandem with really strong early game rifles might become OP. Though it will remain to be seen.
Although i'd definitely nerf bars if rifles get buffed, from what little i've played the damage they can do early game is pretty strong which might become absurd combined with the bar wiping power.
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Man, you've really been on a poor roll of comments lately in regards to balance. You're constantly defending axis, especially OKW when everyone agrees they overperform by miles. OKW are loaded to the gills with side grades and their cost effectiveness really drives the nail into USF. You can kill more volk models and still lose that trade, isnt that why your balance team is making those changes?
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Riflemen pricing has a reason, they get a free officer squad with teching.
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Can you stop with this bullshit? OKW has free weapon upgrades and grenades and shwerer, OST has free weapon upgrades and grenades, if free officer is such a problem for USF, change it for free grenades and weapon upgrades. It will be a buff.
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Then nerf weapon racks to only give 1 BAR max. : ))))
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if free officer is such a problem for USF, change it for free grenades and weapon upgrades. It will be a buff.
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It really, really won't. I'm not sure you appreciate the value of getting a 300 MP infantry squad for a 200 MP tech.
USF would be utterly crippled without it.
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What you say is interesting because I don't see other factions being utterly crippled without their stuff being free. Not saying they wouldn't be facing issues but not at that level.
Seeing officers as mandatory free otherwise the faction collapse is imo a game design issue.
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If you remove the Officer, that's a 300 manpower swing very early in the game.
You'd need to make up the difference somewhere else. Swapping it out for the grenade unlock does not make up the difference.
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