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That sure is one biased comparison if I ever saw one. How about we take their vet 0 performance to compare and not the vet 3 one which obviously favors the Panzer IV because of its armor bonus? Why would you take a relatively rare scenario (all tanks vet 3) for a comparison?
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the Cromwell and Sherman get additional offensive vet bonuses (c gets even more reload speed, s gets accuracy, not at it was really needed)
P4 got armor bonus on vet2 IRC? Penetration still the same at all mediums on every vet, with vet only ROF increase.
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I do not really see how tying super heavies to tech will make medium tanks more attractive.
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the Cromwell and Sherman get additional offensive vet bonuses (c gets even more reload speed, s gets accuracy, not at it was really needed)
P4 instead gets defensive bonuses
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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the Cromwell and Sherman get additional offensive vet bonuses (c gets even more reload speed, s gets accuracy, not at it was really needed)
P4 instead gets defensive bonuses
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they are perfectly fine, we are talking about the stugs here
Some offtopic: but what you suggest to cromw and to sherman?
ROF for sherman makes wipes with HE more often. Armor bonus (americans very often use addtitional handmade armor for their tanks, especially on frontal armor and it was better than axis skirts) like in reality? With greater penetrarion make p4 in quite awkward position.
Accuracy for cromw i think will lead to the same result - wipes of squads. Armor? Speed for sake of God of speed? I think all remembered old game Carmageddon and wwhat you can did in it with peoples?
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well, no , why do u think in moba people picks both attack and defense upgrade ? They have equal value , it just depends on the role of the tank
I'd rather have +30% armor -30% reload then -50% reload alone.
High DPS doesn't matter much if you don't live long enough to benefit from it, Pershing being exception of its class and still having to tail it the moment something posing even remote threat appears nearby.
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(c gets even more reload speed, s gets accuracy,not at it was really needed
)
P4 instead gets defensive bonuses
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well, no , why do u think in moba people picks both attack and defense upgrade ? They have equal value , it just depends on the role of the tank
P4 is a defensive tank , Sherman and Cromwell are offensive tanks
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I’m on phone, I meant that the 30% more accuracy is not really needed as it has better moving accuracy
Maybe my english too bad to understand meaning of this phrase?
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accuracy works only on tank, reload works for both inf and tanks
That translates to P4 being able to fight tanks effectively, while allied meds can't, but will perform better vs infantry.
Moba dynamics are incomparable here, last I've checked, you didn't needed a mage specifically to damage a tank.
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accuracy works only on tank, reload works for both inf and tanks
If I take 2 tanks and to one I give it a 50% additional chance to not get pen while to the other I give it the ability to shoot with half the speed they equalize
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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and AT too u don’t need a genius to understand that if the pak fired twice at fast it would be better vs tanks
Rate of fire part improves AI performance.
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and AT too u don’t need a genius to understand that if the pak fired twice at fast it would be better vs tanks
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Again wrong if I fire 2 shoots I have double the chances to pen (at least theoretically)
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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I don't know exact digits, but let's imagine that it's right. What you will get in that case? German "sherman/cromwell" that have the same stats and abilities as allies, and don't have any strong sides against.
You just cutted off your own hands with that decision. Every armor combat between your and ally medium become very danger for you, you got 2 almost equal mediums. Who will win in battle if opponents have equal skills?
But if you prefer light armor to other bonuses (accuracy, abilities) why not? When USF and UKF every game will be use M10 against you, soviet su-76 with spam t-70. You maybe understand that more "old" P4 was better than new "modern".
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again IF u take 2 identical tank for 1 u increase the armor to have 50% chance to deflect while the other fire 2 shells , they will still be the same as the other tank will pen every 2 shots
Not if you have significantly lower chance to pen.
You will have double the amount of chances, sure, but these chances are low.
What has better odd of getting what you need?
Scoring 2 or better on D4 dice across 4 throws or scoring 4 or better 6 times in a row on D6 dice?
That is why RoF favors AI performance and armor favors AT performance.
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