Anybody playing Luftwaffe Ground Forces?

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 08:07 AMSmiling Tiger

I've been thinking about switching up my OKW commander lineup and I realized that not only have I not used this doctrine in awhile but I haven't really seen anybody in teamgames use it either. However it's peaked my interest because I wanted to pick a more aggressive commander and the Luftwaffe Ground Forces seems like a good option.

Has anybody been having success with this one lately, and how do you think it compares to other OKW choices?

• Falls should be the filet of the doctrine but are just bad / inefficient compared to US airborne, shocktrops etc. I really hope the unit get the deserved buff in the next balance patch.
  
• Heavy fortification is fine for "fortress doctrine" but i dont like the commander slot for LGF.
  I would like to replace it with the OSTWIND - the unit fits perfectly to the theme of the doctrine.
  
• Airborne assault comes very late. The ability is basically an infantry pin and the same ability can be used at 6CP with Wehrnmacht's Assault support doctrine. Yes, the additional AT strafe is nice but the ability is not strong enough to be comparable to other air attacks which are available at CP12.
  - Options: Airborne attack should work like the Sturmovik attack including the additional AT strafe - then it can stay at CP12.
  
  
  

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 11:18 AMJilet

Just registered for this post. Finally someone realized that Falls are overpriced glass cannons. Heck they even lose 2 models while fighting with cons and they have absolutely no chance to fight penals or shocks if opponent is microing a little bit to avoid the grenade.

Make them 5 man dropping with MP-40s (later upgraded with FG42)
Increase the cost back to 400
Remove the panzerfaust to prevent Falls blobs being immune to tanks.
Remove the blendkörper give it a potato masher smoke

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 12:55 PMSmartie

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2. Mod team (at least Sander93) is aware of the Falls problematic situation, lets hope they buff them in the next balance patch.
3. Your idea of 5 a men squad arriving with MP40 is close to the first relic design of the unit. Wehrmacht have a own Falls unit starting exactly as you mentioned, you can upgrade the unit with 2 FJG's or 1 MG43.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 14:23 PMJilet

Well thanks for the warm welcome

I think their greatest problem is their RA. Maybe giving them a RA buff rather than a 5 man squad can solve it.
And Wehr falls would be interesting since Wehr really lacks the "elite" infantry for close-mid range combat (IMO)

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 14:23 PMJilet

Well thanks for the warm welcome

I think their greatest problem is their RA. Maybe giving them a RA buff rather than a 5 man squad can solve it.
And Wehr falls would be interesting since Wehr really lacks the "elite" infantry for close-mid range combat (IMO)

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 19:25 PMButcher

Last time I played Fallschirmjäger the squad died while airdropping into a single tree.

That "feature" needs to be fixed for any airborne unit. It sucks.

Other than that Falls are redundant and fill no real role. They can seomewhat stand up against Bars and Bren blobs... however not for cost. I see nothing they can do better than Obers. And I don't consider a Faust canging their role.

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 16:20 PMLoopDloop

Wait but that's literally pgrens.

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 15:04 PMruzara

because pzgrenadiers and stromtrooper with mp40s is not enough for close-mid range combat right?

but i do agree with RA buffs..

Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 19:25 PMButcher

Last time I played Fallschirmjäger the squad died while airdropping into a single tree.

That "feature" needs to be fixed for any airborne unit. It sucks.

Jump back to quoted post4 Aug 2019, 17:11 PMblancat

no need to change

Luftwaffe Ground Forces is already fine commander

just other commanders are more powerful and easy to win

ex)special Ops, overwatch, scavange