Jackson needs some more buffs
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TBH, that p4 was not in a position to dive even at the start of the clip. Not against a Jackson, not with that little health.
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Second without HVAP, it has the same damage as your OKW PZ4, which just happened to miss the kill shot (Bad RNG can happen to anyone at anytime)
Third, nice Infantry perservation, Jackass.
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Third, nice Infantry perservation, Jackass.
Easy my dude.
@OP I just see a 5 second clip of a p4 missing a shot and a jackson hitting one. Not that I don't think the jackson doesn't need some kind of tune down or price change, but as far as that specific situation went, glide shots were not used, therefore more RNG.
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Easy my dude.
@OP I just see a 5 second clip of a p4 missing a shot and a jackson hitting one. Not that I don't think the jackson doesn't need some kind of tune down or price change, but as far as that specific situation went, glide shots were not used, therefore more RNG.
It's cool, I do think the Jackson needs to be more expensive, if it's going to remain this good against anything that isn't Infantry.
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Have you heard something of a thing called "road speed bonus"?
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as long as axis have trash tanks like P4, Tiger or Panther.
OP, i must inform you that P4, Tiger and panther are the benchmark of the game with regards of medium and heavy tanks. They lack nothing. Dont call them trash because you dont get the best of them.
When you put aside your personal points of view and unnecessary subjective toxicity, the forums will give you all the feedback to understand how the game is balanced.
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It's cool, I do think the Jackson needs to be more expensive, if it's going to remain this good against anything that isn't Infantry.
What if we make jacksons even more expensive and effective against infanrty.
Imagine like, 1000MP and 500Fu. That would be a fair price, dont you think?
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What if we make jacksons even more expensive and effective against infanrty.
Imagine like, 1000MP and 500Fu. That would be a fair price, dont you think?
Lmao.
USF has no other baseline TD to use, specially against heavier tanks, back when the Jackson was 480 HP people always used the Pershing to have something that didn't die the moment you made any mistake.
If you mess up the Jackson like it was before, USF will fade further into obscurity outside of 1s again, let a Tank Destroyer be able to do their one job. (Destroy Tanks)
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Fuel cost should be increased by 10-15
Mediums used to be able to kill it reliably if they snuck up on it. Now the jackson can usually survive long enough to escape range, and it shoots faster/misses less often than it used to so it can turn the tide on chasing mediums more easily
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The messenger might be making the case the wrong way, but the jackson is still really freaking good
Fuel cost should be increased by 10-15
Mediums used to be able to kill it reliably if they snuck up on it. Now the jackson can usually survive long enough to escape range, and it shoots faster/misses less often than it used to so it can turn the tide on chasing mediums more easily
That would be a fair change, after all even at 140 fuel, it overshadows other alternatives.
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The messenger might be making the case the wrong way, but the jackson is still really freaking good
Fuel cost should be increased by 10-15
Mediums used to be able to kill it reliably if they snuck up on it. Now the jackson can usually survive long enough to escape range, and it shoots faster/misses less often than it used to so it can turn the tide on chasing mediums more easily
The said 'nerf' of 10-15 FU can damage Jacksons as much as a stick would do to a real tank.
Its not proportional to either its intended performance or their counterparts.
If jackson can secure so reliably 1v1s against all but the heaviest tank destroyers (Jgdtgr or Elephant) it could be nerfed a little harder in the fuel cost. Its reliable and complementary to USF core army, there are cheaper doctrinal alternatives if you really want cost efficient units.
IMO all axis tanks are too fast, with and without blitz. If jacksons receive any sort of nerf, so should be all axis tank speed...
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OP, i must inform you that P4, Tiger and panther are the benchmark of the game with regards of medium and heavy tanks. They lack nothing. Dont call them trash because you dont get the best of them.
When you put aside your personal points of view and unnecessary subjective toxicity, the forums will give you all the feedback to understand how the game is balanced.
They lack for nothing exept they don’t have Stalinium armour, The righteousness of democracy or the largest empire in the world backing them up! #buffPanthers
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A 15 fuel increase with no buffs is not nothing, more expensive tanks have received even smaller cost adjustments
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10-15 fuel increase is barely a deserving nerf, the Jackson is blatantly OP and has nothing to do with the price, its the performance which needs to be looked at
Do you have a specific suggestion? I think its current performance is needed for US to compete late-game. Just not expensive enough
The price cant have "nothing to do with it", that doesnt make any sense. If you think its overperforming, then its too strong for its cost...
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