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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:15 PMdistrofio

Stop feeding the troll boys, he only wants attention and is going to do anything for it.

No one is able to describe the OP in the aura rather that "it makes axis tanks harder to kill" and that's a rant.

When someone bring up a steamroll to their base and it was not because L2P, CPz4 will be worth a nerf

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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:14 PMKatitof

Actually, its 3rd thread about it since the patch that was supposed to change it, first was made within a week of the changes, 2nd couple of months ago.

So yes, people did noticed.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:30 PMpvtgooner

no one noticed anything because nothing changed. relic said it needed a nerf and it didnt happen. What does that have to do with confirmation bias? I think someone may just not want to give up their broken cpz4

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:43 PMStug life

the fun fact is not broken, or we would have "reee axis opie opie C p4 is broken" way before 2 days ago when me and another were checking stats in the shout box

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:16 PMSkysTheLimit

Or it was OP before, hence why it was getting nerfed in the fist place?
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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:44 PMSkysTheLimit

How many times do I have to say that if it was getting nerfed in the first place, someone clearly thought it was OP....

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:45 PMdistrofio

Not true and purely consensual. If a bunch of mobs say it is OP, would you trust them? Hoy much do they know of the whole picture.

A lit of people struggle against su85 selfspot but is it OP? No. Many people can't deal with a with elephants in team games but are they OP? No. Even raketens are cheese but not OP.

Dont misjudge difficulty with Over performing.

If you have a holy crusade against auras then go make a thread about it.

I still wait the argument of the OP part from you

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:37 PMpvtgooner

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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:48 PMpvtgooner

convenient of you to ignore my post eh? the one with the evidence of it being OP from TDA?

R E L I C wants to nerf the unit but it didnt go through properly in the patch. why are you still saying no one thinks its OP when the fucking developers are trying to nerf it? seriously, why?

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:48 PMpvtgooner

convenient of you to ignore my post eh? the one with the evidence of it being OP from TDA?

R E L I C wants to nerf the unit but it didnt go through properly in the patch. why are you still saying no one thinks its OP when the fucking developers are trying to nerf it? seriously, why?

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:47 PMStug life

now if u want to nerf all auras go make a thread about it, if u want to do only one it's just bias

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 14:27 PMSkysTheLimit

Far more reasons have been given than that

The team game one is the biggest in my opinion. Areceived damage aura is way too strong for it be shared amongst teammates. This nerf doesn't touch it in 1v1. That said i think the unit should be buffed and the aura removed

And haven't you yourselff advocated for removing always active auras and reworking them in the past? Replacing them with command abilities similar to the style of commissar? I got that idea from someone else, thought it was you tbh
Edit: nvm i think it was thedarkarmadillo talking about sturm officer that i got it from
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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:50 PMStug life

wait a second, didn't the Jackson have 55 range in the preview ? wasn't that top nerf it ? i guess they just forgot about it better make a thread about it to bring it back to 55 range cause they forgot to implement that, as they clearly wanted to nerf the jackson

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:44 PMSkysTheLimit

How many times do I have to say that if it was getting nerfed in the first place, someone clearly thought it was OP....

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:51 PMdistrofio

Forums dont work like a Facebook, maybe the steam forums is your place then.

Are you a relic developer? Then you dont know if they want to nerf the unit. Use some logic ffs

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:53 PMVipper

I have advocated in redesign aura many times and I would rather have CPz IV redesigned but I do not agree with simply reducing the damage reduction modifier from 0.8 to 0.9. The unit would become even less cost efficient in 1vs1 and 2vs2.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:53 PMVipper

My suggestions about auras was (and is) that aura should:
1) have the "always on" effects nerfed or even removed
2) have a timed ability that increases performance without cost (or a small cost) with cool down
3) scale with veterancy

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:55 PMdistrofio

Someone thought it was OP.
The most meaningful sentence in this whole thread.

Yeah, someone thought it was OP, and started this thread too.

Someone thought it was OP, and he was wrong.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:55 PMdistrofio

Final words on this topic:
Since the most important aspect of the aura is to give medium armour and panthers an extra shot of effective HP and because that results to be very annoying for some players i think the only proper nerf is to make its aura some active ability without munition cost, in exange the tank will loose its firing capability. Given said nerf, the area of effect or the units affected could be changed to adjust the final unit potential.

TL;DR
Does it NEED a nerf? No./ Change something? Make aura active or toggle and loose main gun when the aura is on.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 16:56 PMpvtgooner

https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p6

ctrl + F Panzer IV "Command Tiger". Read the PATCH notes. the PATCH notes from the DEVELOPER. Use some logic FFS.

p.s. shadow, if you want to invise this post for the "use some logic ffs" line, please note that distrofio used this first directed towards me, so you must invise his post too

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2019, 17:01 PMdistrofio

Use SoMe LoGic:
Some devs posted a patch note, and then backrolled it.
Its reasons, no one knows.

Therr you go, mr i read minds.