Should Panthers/Tank destroyers nullify mediums?

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMKiwiBirb

Currently, it feels like Panthers, Jacksons and Fireflys make any mediums useless as soon as they hit the field

Also, who though giving a TD, the Panther, anti-infantry capability was a smart idea?

I think 60 range should be reserved for anti tank guns and casemate tanks. I think it could be interesting if Panthers had less HP, and the same range as Mediums (40) instead of the 50 it is currently, and if Jacksons and Fireflies have 50 range instead of 60.

And as I said above, I think the Panther’s Anti infantry needs to be nerfed, as it is a tank destroyer. If I could, i’d nerf its coaxial MG and remove the Pintle MG upgrade, and reduce its cost accordingly.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 02:30 AMShadowLinkX37

Making AT guns the highest ranged unit primarily would promote AT walls, and as a reaction we’d see more indirect/rocket arty spam. No thank you.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMKiwiBirb

Currently, it feels like Panthers, Jacksons and Fireflys make any mediums useless as soon as they hit the field

Also, who though giving a TD, the Panther, anti-infantry capability was a smart idea?

I think 60 range should be reserved for anti tank guns and casemate tanks. I think it could be interesting if Panthers had less HP, and the same range as Mediums (40) instead of the 50 it is currently, and if Jacksons and Fireflies have 50 range instead of 60.

And as I said above, I think the Panther’s Anti infantry needs to be nerfed, as it is a tank destroyer. If I could, i’d nerf its coaxial MG and remove the Pintle MG upgrade, and reduce its cost accordingly.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 11:08 AMStug life

so let's get this straight, u want panther to have less hp,no top mg and range costing the same and leaving comet the same ? why not delete axis at this point ?

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMKiwiBirb

Currently, it feels like Panthers, Jacksons and Fireflys make any mediums useless as soon as they hit the field

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMKiwiBirb

I think 60 range should be reserved for anti tank guns and casemate tanks. I think it could be interesting if Panthers had less HP, and the same range as Mediums (40) instead of the 50 it is currently, and if Jacksons and Fireflies have 50 range instead of 60.

And as I said above, I think the Panther’s Anti infantry needs to be nerfed, as it is a tank destroyer. If I could, i’d nerf its coaxial MG and remove the Pintle MG upgrade, and reduce its cost accordingly.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 11:21 AMFelinewolfie

No.
He wants to nerf tank destroyers. Make their range 50.
Panthers would also be made into a proper tank destroyer (ie: No AI. And less health)
But Panther already has range 50, so it wouldn't be much of a change actually.

"And as I said above, I think the Panther’s Anti infantry needs to be nerfed, as it is a tank destroyer. If I could, i’d nerf its coaxial MG and remove the Pintle MG upgrade, and reduce its cost accordingly."

He said Panther cost would go down.

The Comet could have further nerfs as well. Perhaps removing it's turret and engine for a start.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 01:18 AMKiwiBirb

Currently, it feels like Panthers, Jacksons and Fireflys make any mediums useless as soon as they hit the field
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Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 14:32 PMdrChengele

Medium tanks are where this game shines and they should be the gold standard against which to balance all antitank and other armour. Anything heavier than that should either come with a gimmick or some sort of restriction.

I am not saying heavy tanks are too oppressive, as they are fairly balanced. But they are balanced by having extremely powerful tank destroyers and AT guns on both sides.

This makes medium armour just another tier in the game to step over. Medium armour should be the highest, most affordable, most numerous armour in the game. Not just for history / authenticity reasons but because they are also fun to play. Their dynamics work fairly well in the game, but they aren't given the space to breathe and come into their own because anything antitank built after the 30 minute mark was buffed to high heavens so that the few commanders with Tigers and IS2s are not instawin buttons.