Mirror Match
14 Dec 2012, 07:39 AM
#121
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no to mirror matches. I only play when I'm baked and now I'm gunna be shelling my own men. or are they his?...
14 Dec 2012, 08:41 AM
#122
Posts: 255
It's impossible to say if mirror matches are good or not because without reference to actual gameplay all we're doing is throwing around unfounded opinions. And since we can't discuss specifics of gameplay here, there's no debate to be had.
I'm worried that people who support it are doing the exact same thing.
For instance, can anyone tell me with a straight face that mirrors would have worked in the vCoH US vs US matchup?
Mirrors aren't inherently good for gameplay or competition if the faction simply can't handle it.
THIS. We should be looking forward to COH2 as it will have unique factions enough for mirror-matchups not to exist. IF mirrors fits better in COH2 then COH1 means the sequel is stepping backwards in gameplay quality..., aka factions are too repetitive.
We always were talking about how fantastic US - WHER metagame was...., how those 2 very different factions are made to perfectly counter each other in a same time having completely different units. Having a thoad that COH2 will be OK for mirror matchups basically kills the CORE why COH1 was so sucesfull.
E-sports = mirror machups???? I don't think so. MIRRORS kill games: it is boring to watch, boring to play, historically incorrect.
We have to remember why COH1 is so unique between all those other RTS games so for ever and ever my vote is NO FOR MIRROR MACHUPS!
14 Dec 2012, 09:30 AM
#123
Posts: 101
By the way were there any comments from Relic about mirrors? Lynx?
14 Dec 2012, 09:32 AM
#124
Posts: 15
By the way were there any comments from Relic about mirrors? Lynx?
There's an interview over on RelicNews stating that there are no plans to have mirror matches in automatch, but they may enable them for basic matches.
14 Dec 2012, 09:38 AM
#125
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Is there? If so where because I was told completely differently by Quinn Duffy.
'The day you stop improving is the day you become retarded' - Greatness
14 Dec 2012, 09:42 AM
#126
Posts: 255
Is there? If so where because I was told completely differently by Quinn Duffy.
He must have been drunk when he told you that
... i hope...
14 Dec 2012, 09:44 AM
#127
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'The day you stop improving is the day you become retarded' - Greatness
14 Dec 2012, 09:58 AM
#128
Posts: 250
it feels like i am playing Command and conquer :/ and to me soviets are really stupidly designed bascily you cant even make a flank against soviets because of 6 men squads of mortar and MG this has to be changed there is no point to have 2men sniper squad or 6men mortar or 6men MG squads also about AT guns :/ the most boring games in BFME games and C&Cs are the mirros.
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14 Dec 2012, 10:00 AM
#129
Posts: 15
http://www.relicnews.com/articles/company-of-heroes-2-multiplayer-hands-on/#ToC
I guess the wording isn't quite as clear as I had remembered. Here is the relevant bit.
In a very surprising development as stands it’s actually possible to play as both German and Soviet on both sides of a team game, allowing German & Soviet vs Soviet and German teams. This was an option missing from the original presumably for authenticity reasons and when questioned if this would remain in the retail game I was told that it was possible, but potentially only as a feature of non-ranked custom games. It’s still up in the air, but apparently as stands will be part of the upcoming beta test for the game.
I guess the wording isn't quite as clear as I had remembered. Here is the relevant bit.
In a very surprising development as stands it’s actually possible to play as both German and Soviet on both sides of a team game, allowing German & Soviet vs Soviet and German teams. This was an option missing from the original presumably for authenticity reasons and when questioned if this would remain in the retail game I was told that it was possible, but potentially only as a feature of non-ranked custom games. It’s still up in the air, but apparently as stands will be part of the upcoming beta test for the game.
14 Dec 2012, 10:03 AM
#130
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Well frankly his grammar needs alot of work, as does his interview technique. Although as its undecided at this stage we seem to agree on that point.
'The day you stop improving is the day you become retarded' - Greatness
14 Dec 2012, 10:10 AM
#131
Posts: 15
Well frankly his grammar needs alot of work, as does his interview technique. Although as its undecided at this stage we seem to agree on that point.
14 Dec 2012, 10:12 AM
#132
Posts: 630 | Subs: 2
Given how I'm the Lead Editor for this site did you expect anything else?
'The day you stop improving is the day you become retarded' - Greatness
14 Dec 2012, 10:14 AM
#133
Posts: 15
No, and you're quite right.
Out of curiosity,were you lucky enough to actually get access to the super secret alpha forum? I'm assuming so.
Out of curiosity,were you lucky enough to actually get access to the super secret alpha forum? I'm assuming so.
14 Dec 2012, 10:19 AM
#134
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First person in.
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14 Dec 2012, 12:17 PM
#135
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the realism jerks in Men of War game dont complain about mirror matches, but the arcade guys in CoH complain?
strange...
strange...
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14 Dec 2012, 12:47 PM
#136
Posts: 522
^^ True dat. CoH 1 was amazing but not very realistic. Yet the argument of realism is being brought up so many times here... I don't care much about realism so long as the gameplay is good.
14 Dec 2012, 13:47 PM
#137
Posts: 65
No, and you're quite right.
Out of curiosity,were you lucky enough to actually get access to the super secret alpha forum? I'm assuming so.
Goto the main forums. There is a thread about it just give them your name.
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14 Dec 2012, 14:00 PM
#138
Posts: 15
^^ True dat. CoH 1 was amazing but not very realistic. Yet the argument of realism is being brought up so many times here... I don't care much about realism so long as the gameplay is good.
Take care not to inadvertently straw man here. Most of the people who are opposed to mirror matches are not really making a realism argument. For the most part it's an "it would be boring/would cause balance issues" argument. I happen to think that the inclusion of mirror matches might end up being worse for competitive play by severely cutting down on the number of people spectating events.
14 Dec 2012, 14:22 PM
#139
Posts: 630 | Subs: 2
You're wrong though.
'The day you stop improving is the day you become retarded' - Greatness
14 Dec 2012, 14:27 PM
#140
Posts: 15
Nuh uh
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