Clown Car Accuracy Consistency

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:07 PMdistrofio

I agree. But you meant to reduce the acc if all vehicle crews among factions?

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:29 PMSkysTheLimit

They probably should be applied, but I won't lose sleep if they aren't. The Soviet m5 comes late enough.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:32 PMLago

However, there's a principle here: if the game doesn't give you these stats, they should be consistent and predictable wherever possible.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:32 PMLago

That inaccuracy only applying to these two? That makes a bit less sense.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:47 PMEtherealDragon

It does to Relic - it's clearly a kneejerk reaction to meta of Calvary Rifles and Flamer M3 (though 250HT should definitely be included for Infantry Doctrine cheese). M5 isn't a super concern but I agree should probably be included for consistency and for silly things like Bazooka bus which while not super meta probably shouldn't be *as* good at hunting light tanks. It's a great change regardless because honestly clown car run-downs are pretty cancerous.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 14:29 PMLago

It doesn't matter what squad's in the vehicle: that squad will fire at 30% accuracy if the vehicle's moving.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 15:53 PMaerafield

Does this mean the squad inside has a 100% accuracy multiplier if the vehicle is standing still or rotating?

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 16:00 PMLago

Standing still, I believe so.

Rotating, I don't know.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 16:05 PMJibberJabberJobber

They don't have 100% accuracy when it's rotating, you'd have to spam the halt command for full accuracy.

It's why I suggest a handbrake mode for all shooty-outy halftracks.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 15:02 PMSuperHansFan

Can we have a moment of silence for twistedtootsy?

But why are only allied clowncars getting nerfed? Why is wehr clowncar allowed 50% accuracy

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 16:57 PMmurky depths

Sorry to jump in but I've been curious about the rotation thing.

If a tank with a turret shoots while the hull is rotating, is that considered "moving"?

If a turretless vehicle, like an SU-76 shoots while rotating, is that considered moving?

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 15:32 PMJibberJabberJobber

Changing the moving accuracy of the Soviet M3A1 and Ostheer 250 probably won't change much, considering most players use a flamer in them, which is not affected by accuracy.

Atleast the USF M3 has 5 passengers shooting out of it and 320 HP, which is good for the time it comes out.

I think the moving accuracy penalty for just the USF M3 should be changed to 40% instead. 5 equally strong passengers in the USF M3 would have the same dps as 4 equally strong passengers of other halftracks then (5*0,4 vs 4*0,5). The WC51 can stay at 30% moving accuracy, considering its super early timing and many utilities.

It would be less drastical and more fair. Add a handbrake option to all halftracks, while we're at it, so players can play around the moving accuracy penalty.

Jump back to quoted post1 May 2019, 17:36 PMdistrofio

I don't know for certain but it would make some sense. Moving can be though as traverse and rotation since both make the tracks/wheels move and the small bumps in the floor would transfer to the hull hence accuracy decreases and it should be harder to aim.
If someone understands the game engine better and knows please do tell us.

It's kind of problematic for turretless tanks but I think they stop at the moment their target gets in the firing cone. Iirc that shouldn't be a big issue.