IR.STG44 is less improve for Ober，but very useful for Volks，and ober MG34 manytime is better than IR.STG44，so I got some idea
Volks can upgrade IR.STG44 when 3cp too，use 2 weapon slot ，cost 60-80 ammo for 1 IR.STG44.
Maybe someone would say “Special OPS got OP Command Panther，No need any buff”，so problem is Command Panther not IR.STG44 OK？Special OPS Doc OP does not mean all ability for this Doc should not have any buff.
Should IR.STG44 for Volksgrenadiers？
18 Apr 2019, 22:26 PM
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18 Apr 2019, 22:42 PM
#2
Posts: 3260
IR StGs ignore cover.
That shouldn't be on Volksgrenadiers.
That shouldn't be on Volksgrenadiers.
18 Apr 2019, 22:44 PM
#3
Posts: 47
Just give IR StG Obers either camo or tactical assault. But for volks? God no
18 Apr 2019, 23:09 PM
#4
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IR StGs ignore cover.
That shouldn't be on Volksgrenadiers.
In fact, it doesn't ignore cover, it just has a accuracy buff for cover
19 Apr 2019, 00:07 AM
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Gives volks IRStGs
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Gives volks IRStGs
19 Apr 2019, 01:58 AM
#6
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Community: Volks OP, nerf relic please D:
relic: HOLD MY BEER
Gives volks IRStGs
y'know...i wouldnt even be that surprised....
#stalinwept
19 Apr 2019, 02:04 AM
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That poll result (1x yes-16x no) gives me faith. So the people in this forum aren't completely insane at least 
19 Apr 2019, 04:37 AM
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I'm not sure did all people vote before they read or my English too bad so didn't know what I mean……
I mean give volks IRstg44 upgrade，cost about 70 ammo but only got 1x IRstg44，and use all weapon slot.
And there is some weapon DPS
Volks stg44——
range 7/23/35
dps 7.52/4.48/1.45
IR stg44——
range 8/16/35
dps 22.03/10.28/3.18
so 1 IR44 better than 2x volks stg44，so I think 70ammo to got 1 is balance，and not OP
Let's see USF M1919 LMG，it need 3cp too，and cost 70 ammo
M1919A6
range 0/28/35
dps 5.39/8.39/8.77
So in long range，even in cover，M1919 dps （8.77*0.5）higher than “one”IRstg44（3.18*0.9），did M1919 op？of course they are different weapon，but I think it still can be a contrast
I mean give volks IRstg44 upgrade，cost about 70 ammo but only got 1x IRstg44，and use all weapon slot.
And there is some weapon DPS
Volks stg44——
range 7/23/35
dps 7.52/4.48/1.45
IR stg44——
range 8/16/35
dps 22.03/10.28/3.18
so 1 IR44 better than 2x volks stg44，so I think 70ammo to got 1 is balance，and not OP
Let's see USF M1919 LMG，it need 3cp too，and cost 70 ammo
M1919A6
range 0/28/35
dps 5.39/8.39/8.77
So in long range，even in cover，M1919 dps （8.77*0.5）higher than “one”IRstg44（3.18*0.9），did M1919 op？of course they are different weapon，but I think it still can be a contrast
19 Apr 2019, 05:05 AM
#9
Posts: 2358
Community: Volks OP, nerf relic please D:
relic: HOLD MY BEER
Gives volks IRStGs
I lol'ed real hard with this. Now I can sleep.
19 Apr 2019, 14:17 PM
#10
Posts: 5279
I'm not sure did all people vote before they read or my English too bad so didn't know what I mean……
I mean give volks IRstg44 upgrade，cost about 70 ammo but only got 1x IRstg44，and use all weapon slot.
And there is some weapon DPS
Volks stg44——
range 7/23/35
dps 7.52/4.48/1.45
IR stg44——
range 8/16/35
dps 22.03/10.28/3.18
so 1 IR44 better than 2x volks stg44，so I think 70ammo to got 1 is balance，and not OP
Let's see USF M1919 LMG，it need 3cp too，and cost 70 ammo
M1919A6
range 0/28/35
dps 5.39/8.39/8.77
So in long range，even in cover，M1919 dps （8.77*0.5）higher than “one”IRstg44（3.18*0.9），did M1919 op？of course they are different weapon，but I think it still can be a contrast
You going to ignore the firing on the move and 4x the close dps when you compare to the m1919?
#stalinwept
19 Apr 2019, 15:32 PM
#11
Posts: 783
I think IRSTG44 should be a default choice for Obersoldaten. Still do not get why it has to be doctrinal if it is limited to an elite unit only.
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20 Apr 2019, 01:18 AM
#12
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Community: Volks OP, nerf relic please D:
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Gives volks IRStGs
It's uhh... asymmetric balance. Yeah.
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20 Apr 2019, 01:52 AM
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Community: Volks OP, nerf relic please D:
relic: HOLD MY BEER
Gives volks IRStGs
Knowing Relic, it wouldn't be booze, but "medicinal herbs".
20 Apr 2019, 04:03 AM
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Bruh...no
21 Apr 2019, 02:45 AM
#15
Posts: 7
why you trying to make volk to ober? volk's IR stg is so OP
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