Every faction should have weakneses.
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Brits mainline infantry do not have snares
Brits do not have a dedicated anti infantry vehicle under 200 fuel
Brits have no early game answer to MG42s, especially after vet 1 when they hard counter UCs
All factions have weaknesses.
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Brits have no reliable mobile indirect fire outside of one commander
Brits mainline infantry do not have snares
Brits do not have a dedicated anti infantry vehicle under 200 fuel
Brits have no early game answer to MG42s, especially after vet 1 when they hard counter UCs
All factions have weaknesses.
True, centaur fuel cost should be reduced to like 150 atleast. 200 fuel is waaaay to much.
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The indirect and MG counters remain true and problematic.
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Not just for the Brits having none
But overall, the "one or two factions dont get what the other four or three do" is IMO an unfortunate application of assymetrical balance. Ofc nothing much can be done about it in CoH2, but for CoH3, i hope they stick with the "one faction gets what the others dont"1
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Here is visual scale from strongest faction to weakest. In my opinion:
UKF>USF>OKW>SU>OH
This how it kinda looks like. USF and SU are hard to say, it could be vice versa. Depends really. This is how it is in all visual aspects.
OH has definitely the most weaknesses. Units that underperforms are Panzergrenadier and Ostwind since they are unreliable and too costy for their performance. This forces them to use grens and mgs and support weapons.
UKF has many units that are strong specialists. Similar to OH but simply way better. Scales even better late game. Best AI Tommies late game with all upgrades. Although AT can be a problem but they do have some superior range AT and emplacements to counteract them. Great faction to bleed enemy manpower easily if played correctly. Have Great counters also. The key is to keep your men alive and bleed more of theirs. Just abuse cover with Tommies and they will do great.
USF do kind of struggle against OKW in the beginning but have an easier time against Wehr. Comes 2nd place best AI units with upgrades the Riflemen. Have great AT Jackson which is personally better than Firefly in many aspects. They simply have great vehicles that functions the way the should and how they perform. Very Consistent. Use Howizter and it will ensure you kills, best mortar in game.
OKW is a good faction, versatile and good at maintaining aggression. Veterancy is an issue which is a weakness. Losing Bases even bigger weakness. Some units underperforming like Luchs and Kubel. They do however have good infantry the Volks as a great support unit. FHT is an easy counter unit so its not that good. Overall they do have some powerful units to counter but requires of skill and micro to pull it off. The only tactic for them is Mechanized which is kinda predictable though it is a great tactic. Good aggressive faction but does scale poorly in comparison to other factions late game.
SU has the best units to capture any support team weapons. The biggest upside about them. Penals which is good although costy. Great early elite SU unit. Too bad Cons are worse but are undoubtedly a good supportive unit also, must have upgrade in order to become better. Should be cheaper the Molotov and AT package. Maxim, yeah we know how it is. They do not have the best supportive weapons but definitely greatest at capturing them and maintaining them. Versatile AT. Has the best doctrine units in my opinion especially the abilities like "Mark Target". It is a very strong faction. Lots of explosions. They have got the big guns. B4 king artillery. Shocks, Guards. All very good doctrine units. Scales relatively well. Have many possible counters and strategies.
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Every faction has a weakness but some have more than others.
Here is visual scale from strongest faction to weakest. In my opinion:
UKF>USF>OKW>SU>OH
This how it kinda looks like. USF and SU are hard to say, it could be vice versa. Depends really. This is how it is in all visual aspects.
OH has definitely the most weaknesses. Units that underperforms are Panzergrenadier and Ostwind since they are unreliable and too costy for their performance. This forces them to use grens and mgs and support weapons.
UKF has many units that are strong specialists. Similar to OH but simply way better. Scales even better late game. Best AI Tommies late game with all upgrades. Although AT can be a problem but they do have some superior range AT and emplacements to counteract them. Great faction to bleed enemy manpower easily if played correctly. Have Great counters also. The key is to keep your men alive and bleed more of theirs. Just abuse cover with Tommies and they will do great.
USF do kind of struggle against OKW in the beginning but have an easier time against Wehr. Comes 2nd place best AI units with upgrades the Riflemen. Have great AT Jackson which is personally better than Firefly in many aspects. They simply have great vehicles that functions the way the should and how they perform. Very Consistent. Use Howizter and it will ensure you kills, best mortar in game.
OKW is a good faction, versatile and good at maintaining aggression. Veterancy is an issue which is a weakness. Losing Bases even bigger weakness. Some units underperforming like Luchs and Kubel. They do however have good infantry the Volks as a great support unit. FHT is an easy counter unit so its not that good. Overall they do have some powerful units to counter but requires of skill and micro to pull it off. The only tactic for them is Mechanized which is kinda predictable though it is a great tactic. Good aggressive faction but does scale poorly in comparison to other factions late game.
SU has the best units to capture any support team weapons. The biggest upside about them. Penals which is good although costy. Great early elite SU unit. Too bad Cons are worse but are undoubtedly a good supportive unit also, must have upgrade in order to become better. Should be cheaper the Molotov and AT package. Maxim, yeah we know how it is. They do not have the best supportive weapons but definitely greatest at capturing them and maintaining them. Versatile AT. Has the best doctrine units in my opinion especially the abilities like "Mark Target". It is a very strong faction. Lots of explosions. They have got the big guns. B4 king artillery. Shocks, Guards. All very good doctrine units. Scales relatively well. Have many possible counters and strategies.
What game mode are you referring to?
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TBH allies won the war IRL. So they should win this game every time without contest. I don't think its fair the allies have weaknesses. Just keep buffing them and nerfing axis. Every, Single, Time.
^ this is what happens if you play OKW as your only faction, 24/7
It deteriorates your mind
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Brits have no early game answer to MG42s
Nades? Wasp? Sniper? Flank? They literally have so many options, just no mortar.
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Nades?
Have you ever tried them? Suggesting them as even remotely useful for anything tells me you didn't.
Sniper?
Not that early, susceptible to 222 just rushing and murdering it if REs are not baby sitting it.
Flank?
With what? Ost will always outnumber brits.
They literally have so many options, just no mortar.
Actually, only reliable option is WASP.
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Nades? Wasp? Sniper? Flank? They literally have so many options, just no mortar.
Brits are without a doubt the weakest and worst faction at flanking or taking on mg's. Nades lack smoke or oorah and do not clear garrisons as well as flames
Ost at least have rifle nades and a mortar.
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Brits are without a doubt the weakest and worst faction at flanking or taking on mg's. Nades lack smoke or oorah and do not clear garrisons as well as flames
Ost at least have rifle nades and a mortar.
Non-doctrinal mortar*
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Brits have no reliable mobile indirect fire outside of one commander
Brits mainline infantry do not have snares
Brits do not have a dedicated anti infantry vehicle under 200 fuel
Brits have no early game answer to MG42s, especially after vet 1 when they hard counter UCs
All factions have weaknesses.
Mg42 should definitely be nerfed then. I can think of at least six ways.
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Have you ever tried them? Suggesting them as even remotely useful for anything tells me you didn't.
Not that early, susceptible to 222 just rushing and murdering it if REs are not baby sitting it.
With what? Ost will always outnumber brits.
Actually, only reliable option is WASP.
I propose a 1v1 between the two of you then. I'll pay the winner 50 bucks.
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