what distance is the best option for these units ?

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 12:06 PMtroyquigley

just wondering how far/near i should have my units when coming across the above units.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 12:40 PMtuvok

any unit with automatic weapons (shocks, lmg grens, pgrens) has to be avoided at close range. also remember that grens can't fire the lmg while moving and that they can't fire the rifle nade at close range.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 12:06 PMtroyquigley

con VS gren
con VS pio
eng VS pio
eng VS gren
penal VS gren
penal VS PG
guard VS gren
guard VS PG


just wondering how far/near i should have my units when coming across the above units.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 15:13 PMEndeav

Pgrens win at close range vs all targets minus shocks. They are really inefficient at long range, but will hold their own.

Pgrens lose to penal battalions with flamethrower at close range.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 14:03 PMbigchunk1

I'm too lazy to get actual proof but enjoy.

http://www.twitch.tv/bigchunk1/c/2909387

Just trust me it works.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 17:18 PMwooof

well this is fairly RNG dependent. technically, even a flame engi could beat a pgren if you get lucky enough. the only thing that would make either of these units win is flame crits. that RNG could easily work against you too though. if the pgrens get lucky and blow up your flamer, the soviets definitely lose that fight.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 20:51 PMbigchunk1

I'm not going to concede that point. As far as RNG is concerned, Flamethrower Penal Battalions have the clear advantage unless of course the Pgrens land a grenade.

Pioneers can beat conscripts with RNG, but no one depends on that when they plan their strategy.