USF Urban Assault -Feedback

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 00:07 AMShadowLinkX37

I mean I can go back and fourth all day with asymmetrically balanced things. Pfusi for example in the test mod. They're "doctrinal" yet they're trash tier without upgrades. Doctrinal =/= OP AF.

The point is, HE sherman doesn't need an HP and armor boost, not while jackson is curb stomping anything and everything and 2x scotts are near undefeatable.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 10:22 AMTiger Baron

A Meatshield tank works tho both thematically and functionally. You want your most tough tank spearheading the assault which includes towns as well.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 11:26 AMLeOverlord

Jackson is not always penetrating its target, and Sherman can't brawl. If you give USF an effective brawler tank, we can discuss a Jackson nerf. Jackson is fine as it is.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 12:33 PMLago

An outright Sherman Jumbo I'd get, like a sort of USF KV-1 thing.

As people keep pointing out to me, the Dozer Blade upgrade turns it into a slow premium medium. Does that count?

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 15:03 PMShadowLinkX37

KT didn't always penetrate its target either pre nerf, yet was considered an "I win" button. This logic has too many holes.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 19:09 PMdistrofio

Still that is power creep, even though you pay for it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 19:09 PMdistrofio

Imagine if pz4 could pay side armor skirts, tungsten rounds for extra pen and he rounds like Sherman's.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 19:20 PMLago

But true, I don't much like the idea of a T-34/76 upgrading into a KV-1, and this is pretty much the same thing.

I think it should at least cost fuel and be mutually exclusive with the .50 cal.

Ideally, ditch it entirely and add some sort of Sherman Jumbo unit instead.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 20:18 PMShadowLinkX37

Munitions matter far less the later the game goes, and generally get dumped into 1-2 abilities like CAS.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2019, 20:18 PMShadowLinkX37

If the cost of the upgrades matters, T34s should be receiving a nerf to their MGs since their hull MGs deal equal DPS to that of the 3 MGs on the p4s, except P4s are required to pay for it.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 15:03 PMShadowLinkX37

KT didn't always penetrate its target either pre nerf, yet was considered an "I win" button. This logic has too many holes.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 00:10 AMLoopDloop

Jackson didn't wipe full 5 man squads in 1 shot, and didn't have over 1000 health and actual armor. That's why KT was considered "I win" button, not because of its pen (not like you need pen to kill like 90% of allied tanks anyway lol).

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 00:13 AMShadowLinkX37

No kidding. but we're ignoring the fact the jackson has near zero downsides except "it has low armor", which can actually deflect p4 rounds. Lets be real though, jacksons, double scotts, cav rifles in WC51, they're all fine because #USFNEVEROP

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 00:55 AMLoopDloop

Wait what's the percent chance jackson actualy bounces a P4?

Oh yeah for sure, I agree with what you're saying (noting the sarcasm) but I was just pointing out that pen wasn't the reason KT was strong lol.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 19:02 PMLeOverlord

KT may didn't, but it has more armor than Jackson. With the KT you could bounce 1/5 shots, while Jackson can't bounce a shot due to low armor value. Yeah, the current KT is trash, but still can bounce some shots. Jackson will be 100% penetrated.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 02:30 AMBananenheld

What is 60 range

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 04:14 AMLeOverlord

Sniper range.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 05:05 AMJae For Jett

Sniper range is 50.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 00:13 AMShadowLinkX37

the jackson has near zero downsides except it has low armor