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Bring USF Artillery inline with OKW

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15 Mar 2019, 16:42 PM
#81
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jump backJump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 16:38 PMBizrock
again, 1v1 wise. This game is all about asymmetrical balance, imagine how boring would it be if every faction has the same units and etc. Saying this, every faction have his unique playstyle, USF may not have a good defensive stance, but they are great on assaults with a lot of smokes and mobility. Same goes with Ostheer that are better in defense and etc.

It is still asymmetrical balance with priest comes with stock. I am not requesting a same unit. It is actually boring when you have to pick priest/calliope commander everytime to deal with stock unit. My suggestion simply promote more strategic options and diversity for playing USF.
15 Mar 2019, 16:44 PM
#82
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It is still asymmetrical balance with priest comes with stock. I am not requesting a same unit. It is actually boring when you have to pick priest/calliope commander everytime to deal with stock unit. My suggestion simply promote more strategic options and diversity for playing USF.


If he goes Stuka, you can get a Sherman to counter, it cost almost the same. Play aggressive with the Sherman and your rifleman and you can nullify the Stuka pretty much.
15 Mar 2019, 16:49 PM
#83
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again m20 is not luch, luch is a light tank, u are comparing luch to m20 while saying pak m8a1 are not comparable to stuka when they are both long range indirect fire platform

u are just another hypocrite on this site

You simply don't understand the way to compare units. Luch and M20 are comparable because they both serve a shock purpose with same mechanism which is a vehicle. What makes them difference is their performance which is the armour and the DPS, hence they have different cost. But scott and stuka are simply not serving the same purpose as I have explained many times already.
15 Mar 2019, 16:54 PM
#84
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jump backJump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 16:44 PMBizrock


If he goes Stuka, you can get a Sherman to counter, it cost almost the same. Play aggressive with the Sherman and your rifleman and you can nullify the Stuka pretty much.

This is a bit off topic again. We are not here to talk about how to counter stuka. You can spam arguments further into if he goes sherman, you can get an ATG to counter and protect your stuka, it costs cheaper. But it is meaningless.
The problem has to be addressed is USF has no equivalent option in stock like stuka to counter heavy static play which shuts down a lot of strategic option when playing USF.
15 Mar 2019, 16:55 PM
#85
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NICE another thread where you can just sit back and grab some popcorn :hyper:
15 Mar 2019, 16:57 PM
#86
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You simply don't understand the way to compare units. Luch and M20 are comparable because they both serve a shock purpose with same mechanism which is a vehicle. What makes them difference is their performance which is the armour and the DPS, hence they have different cost. But scott and stuka are simply not serving the same purpose as I have explained many times already.
why by ur logic both have barrage and are indirect unit ? if luch and m20 have same purpose(cue they don't)then m8a1 and pak howy should have same purpose

dont use double standards please
15 Mar 2019, 17:13 PM
#87
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why by ur logic both have barrage and are indirect unit ? if luch and m20 have same purpose(cue they don't)then m8a1 and pak howy should have same purpose

dont use double standards please

They simply have different mechanism that cause them serving different purpose. If you take away the auto fire and hit ground from Scott, then stuka and Scott is comparable. But then, Scott will be so underpowered when compare to stuka.

And M8A1 is not comparable to Pack howitzer since they have completely different mechanism(vehicle vs team weapon) although they serve the same purpose
15 Mar 2019, 17:17 PM
#88
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They simply have different mechanism that cause them serving different purpose. If you take away the auto fire and hit ground from Scott, then stuka and Scott is comparable. But then, Scott will be so underpowered when compare to stuka.

And M8A1 is not comparable to Pack howitzer since they have completely different mechanism(vehicle vs team weapon) although they serve the same purpose
then why u compare:
a LV with a LT
a LV with a scout car

u double standard anything that fits ur narrative
15 Mar 2019, 17:24 PM
#89
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then why u compare:
a LV with a LT
a LV with a scout car

u double standard anything that fits ur narrative

There isn't a mechanism distinguishable between a LV or LT. They are all following standard direct fire vehicle mechanism with backward button, needs engineer to repair instead of reinforcement and have armour and etc. What makes them different(one is called light tank, another is light vehicle) is the value of armour which is performance related and have nothing to do with mechanism.
15 Mar 2019, 17:26 PM
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Doesn't OKW have emergency smokes that are faster to deploy than Sherman smokes?


No, that's OST. Only the puma and flaktrack have "panic smoke"
15 Mar 2019, 17:36 PM
#91
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And now that I've read through most posts here, I'm going to lock this thread since it is serving near zero purpose.

@OP if you want to discuss this topic again, open another thread of similar nature, but you need to be open minded or it will turn out like this has.

/locked
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