Tank Crew (USF)

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 02:24 AMinsaneHoshi

Smoke isnt free and isnt ubiquitous. If your going to act as if Panzer Tactician is a stock upgrade Vipper gets to act as if pershing is a stock USF unit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 02:28 AMkingdun3284

Decrew isnt ubiquitous also. At least not for priest and pershing. Decrew manually has it downside also, so it doesn't free. You have to risk the cost of being captured.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 02:35 AMinsaneHoshi

You did not address the fact that you are acting as if panzer tactician is a stock ability. Futhermore you are acting as if the restriction on the Pershing, Priest and Callope (because they can not be implemented with the functionality) means that the availability of the decrew feature is somehow equivalent to the availability of panzer tactician.

And you have a unique definition of "free"

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 03:20 AMtheekvn

smoke need about 3s to fully cover the erea, decrew take 5s, crit repair is more 4s. Yeah, 10s + is not enough time for extra micro ?
decrew micro give 5s, more decrew-recrew = more shot from Axis tank to another target or retreat to safe place.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 02:23 AMkingdun3284

He simply never plays ally. You need two click to deal with Panzer tactican and hitting ground simply has less accuracy to hit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 05:59 AMCorsin

I mean... my games are literally right there in my signature lol. How do I never play ally?

You seem to totally miss the point. Let me spell it out step by step for you.

- Panzer tac, costs ammo, its not stock, its commander based and with Jackson speed/range its easy to chase after them.
- Getting out of a tank fucks the enemy's targeting up since they will usually have their targeting set to "Vehicle only" during a tank fight.
- Yeah you can focus target manually, but your tank has probably shot something else and turret started turning, meaning if you have 2-3 Jacksons looking at you, you're gonna take 2-3 shots before your focus fire goes off and finishes the dead decrewed tank.
- Been testing it as USF in 2v2's recently, and in a tank charge, decrewing often saves the tank as the enemy cant hang around with 2-3 jacksons shooting at them.

Thats pretty much it.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2019, 02:40 AMIncendiaryRounds

Only decrew delay exists. I'm talking about a 5 sec delay for entering the tank.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 09:15 AMdistrofio

What part of QoL change, making decrewed tanks still owned by the player, is so hard to understand?

If USF player made a clear mistake and his tanks are about to get rekt its as cheesy as it can be to "micro" it with decrewing. As corsin stated, its always a dangerous situation and probably other tanks are involved.

Micro is not beaten by more micro, its beaten by good desition making...

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 02:23 AMkingdun3284

He simply never plays ally. You need two click to deal with Panzer tactican and hitting ground simply has less accuracy to hit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 12:25 PMKatitof

No, he simply has bad micro and would rather have game adapt to his low skill then to improve it himself.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 09:47 AMkingdun3284

You are correct in some degree but the target is wrong.

The correct version should be:

If OST player made a clear mistake and his tanks are about to get rekt its as cheesy as it can be to "micro" it with popping up a smoke. As corsin stated, its always a dangerous situation and probably other tanks are involved.

Micro is beaten by more micro which is the case of dealing with panzer tactican, you need two click and pray for the RNG to deal with one click, but this is not the case of decrewing which is one click in exchange of one click. And sorry about that, there is nothing related to decision making in this case. It's a click only. Just like you don't have to revise your building order or unit positioning when all you need is a click to evade from a grenade. If you don't like to kill the decrewed tank with a click, you can simply capture it with an infantry.