Increase light jaegars price

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 09:22 AMNaOCl

1) we're talking about JLI, not volks.
2) If they get critted, they lose 1 model, before wiping a squad of JLI
3) Not by JLI
4) ?????

Most of what you said has nothing to do with JLI, they're fine.

You're just incapable of thinking of any counters, so you come and forum-hero.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 12:43 PMddd

I checked vonivans stream. He got owned with pathfinders and switched to ass engies. I also spectated some luvnest games with pathfinders spam and saw him losing to some nonames. You have any particular streamer in mind?

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 05:07 AMgbem

to bring it to parity with obersoldaten which it outperforms as a firesupport unit...

also note i said or... either you bring its crit to below 40% or nerf the price to 340 x 6cp to bring it to obersoldaten standards as JLI is the equivalent of 1cp obersoldaten squads

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 12:43 PMddd

I checked vonivans stream. He got owned with pathfinders and switched to ass engies. I also spectated some luvnest games with pathfinders spam and saw him losing to some nonames. You have any particular streamer in mind?

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:21 PMmortiferum

If you bring it to 40% crit threshold then give it 2 G43s just like pathfinders.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:34 PMddd

Pretty sure the i&r pathfinders with 1 sniper rifle perform better in combat than standard ones with 2 rifles.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:38 PMVipper

Depends, scope rifles become very strong when there are allot of them and when combined with weapona that spread damage like BARs and Mortars.

In addition one CP 1 and the other is CP 0.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:57 PMddd

Well i was talking about their combat power regardless of cp requirement. But i did some testing now and it seems standard pathfinders are stronger at mid and far range while i&r are better at close range.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:21 PMmortiferum

If you bring it to 40% crit threshold then give it 2 G43s just like pathfinders.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 16:00 PMgbem

pathfinders are 4 man squads with less utility than JLI... nerf a to 40% just brings them inline

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 16:42 PMmortiferum

US pathfinders can pick up BARs and become quite capable of bringing enemies to below the sniping threshold.

What you are proposing is nerfing it into irrelevance, not "fixing" it.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 16:42 PMmortiferum

US pathfinders can pick up BARs and become quite capable of bringing enemies to below the sniping threshold.

What you are proposing is nerfing it into irrelevance, not "fixing" it.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 16:47 PMKatitof

Soo you're saying that if you invest 120 muni in addition, you -might- get something a little bit comparable to 45 muni investment?

You have just made another argument why JLI require a nerf in a way.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 13:21 PMmortiferum

If you bring it to 40% crit threshold then give it 2 G43s just like pathfinders.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 17:39 PMthedarkarmadillo

I'd rather try it at like 60% crit and 1 or perhaps a munitions snipe like pathfinders had in the AA campaign. Obviously JLI need to bring something to the table, but snipe at 75 % is well above their cost as a force multiplier. Keep in mind that snipers cost 50% and are massively more squishy. Obviously snipers crit at full but in comparison the risk/reward/cost effeciency of JLI is way high.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 17:35 PMmortiferum

No, what I am saying is with BAR or double BAR, the pathfinder can very rapidly bring a target to the snipe threshold at all ranges, while JLIs can't really do that, hence the 290 MP cost.

It also is specifically made to complement the paratrooper doctrine, while the JLI is just an ordinary call-in with no special interaction with overwatch or salvage doctrine.

JLI requires a nerf, but not the proposed "340 mp, 6CP".

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 17:46 PMgbem

They perform like obersoldatens that come at 1cp... nerf them to proper 280mp squads or nerf the price and reinforce to obers standards...

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2018, 18:27 PMTobis

The snipe is the only thing they have going for them, otherwise they are grenadiers with more RA and a bunch of abilities that are split between ost commanders.

Price to 280 mp
Make the ambush bonus not work against retreating units

Comparing them to obers is moronic. They are more equivalent to barred riflemen at 280 mp. Making them 280 mp leaves them effective without overnerfing them.