We are talking about call-in infantry and JLI
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I am talking about comparing JLI with call-in infantry Patherfinder here.
And light tanks are counters to JLI, so I think they are related to the topic with JLI.
Increase light jaegars price
22 Dec 2018, 04:10 AM
#81
Posts: 261
I am talking about comparing JLI with call-in infantry Patherfinder here.
And light tanks are counters to JLI, so I think they are related to the topic with JLI.
开弓没有回头箭。
22 Dec 2018, 04:14 AM
#83
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22 Dec 2018, 04:18 AM
#84
Posts: 378
*puts close range starting unit in front of JLI as well as cheap line infantry that have an upgrade that increases their close quarters damage in front* where is your God now?
Goes Shocktroop
Goes Conscript PPsH
Goes Clowncar
Goes Mechanised
22 Dec 2018, 04:23 AM
#85
Posts: 261
开弓没有回头箭。
22 Dec 2018, 05:04 AM
#87
Posts: 1979
Goes Shocktroop
Goes Conscript PPsH
Goes Clowncar
Goes Mechanised
totally not overpowered when the strongest strategy of GC2 becomes irrelevant because of a 70% crit sniper... whats next? should we give axis a leopard 2?
22 Dec 2018, 05:06 AM
#88
Posts: 1979
It doesnt though, Cons can beat them, you're just shit.
I'd be happy to beat you with Sov tier 1 whilst you play JLI spam.
All your posts make it evident you just plain suck.
"cons beat them" -NaOCl 2018
yeah cons can beat them in the same way a T34 can beat a king tiger >.>
you are saying the objectively worst core infantry squad ingame can beat a penal killing jagerspam... as kat previously mentioned... id like to know where your dealer is
22 Dec 2018, 05:12 AM
#89
Posts: 1979
You don't need guards, M3 and Universal Carrier both can win one-on-one with 221. And M3 only cost 5 fuel and UC cost no fuel. You can try that in cheat mode.
For utility, 221 can only dispatch medic, nothing more. M3 and UC can transport infantry. I think transport ability is useful for a vehicle who can not capture. Don't you think so?
i just did... the M3A1 loses to the 221... the M3A1 costs 15 fuel while the 221 costs 20...
it also gains smoke at vet 1 and riegel mines at vet 5
its stronger than you think...
22 Dec 2018, 05:16 AM
#90
Posts: 4183 | Subs: 4
invised 2 posts for excess flame. Keep it on JLI.
22 Dec 2018, 05:27 AM
#91
Posts: 810
I mean Bofors are good counter to JLI spam.
Bofos cannot counter JLI
22 Dec 2018, 05:31 AM
#92
Posts: 261
After running several tests by myself. I think we should increase JLI's price.
Here is the reference:
Without G43 upgrade, they have similar performance with Pathfinder.
With G43 upgrade, they basically trampled Pathfinder.
Here is the reference:
Without G43 upgrade, they have similar performance with Pathfinder.
With G43 upgrade, they basically trampled Pathfinder.
开弓没有回头箭。
22 Dec 2018, 05:41 AM
#93
Posts: 1979
it gets worse... pair them with volks and sturms and they slaughter penals like crazy...
22 Dec 2018, 06:20 AM
#94
Posts: 5279
Goes Shocktroop
Goes Conscript PPsH
Goes Clowncar
Goes Mechanised
Are you paying attention? JLI with any support is problematic because of the crit snipe being after only 20 points of damage. Closing against JLI and stg volks will net the Soviet player alot of bleed and not necessarily infliciting any. If volks were not gifted STGs it might be a different story but the closer you get to the JLI the more damage you will take and have been taking. Clown caring after JLI souls great, but where's that camo rak hiding? Oh. Looks like you have been fausted. Hey you just gifted the enemy 5 fuel and set yourself back 15! Jolly good show.
Move the crit to 60% or 55% and see how that looks. Maybe adjust vet to allow sniping at a higher threshold. As it is they simply hit too hard and synergize too well with do it all already volks. JLI are a force multiplier for a unit that already punches above its weight.
#stalinwept
22 Dec 2018, 06:37 AM
#95
Posts: 1979
JLI are a force multiplier for a unit that already punches above its weight.
^this... a mortar may lose to combat engineers alone... but a mortar + mg-42 can take on obersoldaten with upgrades...
22 Dec 2018, 09:32 AM
#96
Posts: 1979
Goes Shocktroop
Goes Conscript PPsH
Goes Clowncar
Goes Mechanised
also
1. cons ppsh suck vs volks
2. shocks still get critted by JLI... the more expensive the squad the more vulnerable to JLI
3. clowncar is easily counterable by the midgame
4. OKW can go mechanized aswell and has rakatenwerfers...
22 Dec 2018, 09:35 AM
#97
Posts: 3602 | Subs: 1
Maybe Relic can now remove STGs from Volks, OKW would relic on various "elite" infantry to do the dps while volks keep their main task: soak damage.
22 Dec 2018, 10:08 AM
#98
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
You are really a double standard man.
So, give me an unit which cost 20 fuel but perform worse than OKW's 221.
An unit's performance should be related to its price, don't you think so?
Was it up to me, you'd have 223 only as 221 serves no purpose other then "lets see if OKW can do anything else but voks opening".
You don't need guards, M3 and Universal Carrier both can win one-on-one with 221. And M3 only cost 5 fuel and UC cost no fuel. You can try that in cheat mode.
For utility, 221 can only dispatch medic, nothing more. M3 and UC can transport infantry. I think transport ability is useful for a vehicle who can not capture. Don't you think so?
Assuming a-move is the maximum extend of your micro that is.
Do you really need someone to explain to you how a unit with a turret beats a unit without it when they have same range?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
22 Dec 2018, 15:22 PM
#99
Posts: 783
i just did... the M3A1 loses to the 221...
You are lying. The 221 actually struggles against a kubelwagen because the 221 lacks penetration while the kubelwagen actually has some.
23 Dec 2018, 08:55 AM
#100
Posts: 142
250mp is really too cheap, any other kind of play is okay from okw, even when I face top10 player. But with light jaegers i have problems vs top 200 players. How absurd is that.Is that such a hard thing to make them cost more? Where is hotfix for that?
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