B4 , what's the point.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 21:41 PMTheGentlemenTroll

Its makes a really big boom that is slightly threatening when the opponent imagines what coulda happened if it actually hit his units.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 17:04 PM|GB| The Lnt.599

ITS FREAKING FUN THATS WHY FFS !!!

and if u have an actual idea of what your doing its not to bad. Some factors to keep in mind when memeing with the b4 and get good results are:
- don't plant it all the way back like u would do with another howi, plant it as far forward as is safely possible. So that there is no immediate risk of losing the thing.
- plant (several) rings of mines around the b4 so that when your get rushed you bomb the tank thats rushing.
- always shoot at targets close to you and when u have sight. dont use this thing to base bomb, its a waist of time. its better to shoot a a single squad relatively close at u then a whole blob in the enemy base with the way how scatter works on this gem.
- use it as bait with mines
- get the AA halftrack (when against ost) the sovjet AA halftrack is so insanely good with AA u have an quite ok chance of shooting down the recon plane before it reached its target. thus decreasing the chance of getting a stuka divebomb of succesfully
- get not one but 2 or 3 of them, that way u will have more shots for that lucky hit on the close target that u got vision on.
- good maps for this strat are the smaller maps like 2v2 maps where your b4 can guard multiple choke points at once, like vp's, cutoffs and bridges. And because the map is smaller, your targets can't be that far away, previous factors considerd. Crossing in the woods for example would be obviously a better map then moskou outskirts.


when u have 2 or 3 aimed for the same area, that is relatively close by, u got vision on, and the target is slowed by mines or suppression its almost impossible to miss


So to conclude: happy mememing and get gud, b4 can be a viable unit on certain occasions and is not completely useless

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 23:03 PMthedarkarmadillo

The fact that it's probably going to miss the intended target and possibly hit some th ING 3 miles outside of it is probably the scariest part of it right now. How can anyone prepare for what is basically a map wide maybe?

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 20:35 PMSyraw

I played against a Soviet player once, he used the B4 along with the scout plane, it had pretty good effect. I think the trick to make the B4 work is to not fire it into fog of war.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 14:29 PMElSlayer

1) Slightly reduce scatter
2) Make OHK radius smaller
3) Make non-OHK radius bigger
4) Add special effect like stun (personally I hate stun effects) or suppression. Give B-4 user at least something to make up for when it misses, but shell lands kinda near intended target.

/fixed

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 04:20 AMShadowLinkX37

I see no fun in playing against a unit that can instantly wipe a panther if it hits. Should probably give it the sturmtiger treatment. Mass suppression in AoE where it hits.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 04:42 AMthedarkarmadillo

It only does 640 damage doesn't it?
I agree it shouldn't be wiping tanks on hit (well, maybe on direct fire, but even that could be a critical cocktail instead of an insta gib) and it should ABSOLUTELY get the sturmtiger treatment. HUGE aoe damage, suppression and smallish OHK aoe. I've been saying that's the way to go for problem wipers for years. Hit and wipe or miss and do nothing is no fun for either side.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 23:57 PMthedarkarmadillo

Even that isn't enough really. I used it a few days ago because of this thread. Maybe I was misremebering. I wasn't. Called in a shot on a repair truck as dead center and the shot landed outside the circle with recon. That should never be the case...

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 09:52 AMSyraw

you somehow expect the b4 to be a satelite laser guided nuclear bomb all the time.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 09:52 AMSyraw

you somehow expect the b4 to be a satelite laser guided nuclear bomb all the time.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 10:52 AMthedarkarmadillo

NO, but I DO expect the shell to land WITH IN the circle that is supposed to depict where the shell will land. Kinda like when you build a unit I expect it to work as advertised. Super crazy right? Expecting what's advertised... But for real, fuck right off