OKW

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2018, 21:27 PMTactical Imouto

Will they ever nerf the oppressive faction that is OKW and especially its early game? It is literally toxic for newer players, so not surprised coh 2 is so dead nowadays especially on allied side. ALl of my friends have quit because of Sturmpios and A-move autowin nature of OKW, especially in lower elo since it is so easy to play and oppressive against anything but soviets if u play meta soviets since only crutch units Soviets work nowadays. sturmpio spam to Volk spam and having so much resources early is toxic. Will USF get buffed assengies aswell early on? Who ever thought of OKW design at Relic must have been dropped on their head as a child

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 04:58 AMSerrith

I think game mode is a big part if it. In 1v1 you can just cap somewhere else, but in team games the same size maps are divided between 2/3/4x as many players which often forces you to engage the sturmpios directly.
USF has it worst because at least ukf you can tank with the UC and you start with an infantry section. USF gets stuck with the underwhelming RE and lack any vehicles or suppression options that early.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 04:58 AMSerrith

I think game mode is a big part if it. In 1v1 you can just cap somewhere else, but in team games the same size maps are divided between 2/3/4x as many players which often forces you to engage the sturmpios directly.
USF has it worst because at least ukf you can tank with the UC and you start with an infantry section. USF gets stuck with the underwhelming RE and lack any vehicles or suppression options that early.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 07:06 AMEsxile

Doesn't work for USF, they just rush your cutoff.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2018, 21:27 PMTactical Imouto

sturmpio spam to Volk spam

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 04:58 AMSerrith

I think game mode is a big part if it. In 1v1 you can just cap somewhere else, but in team games the same size maps are divided between 2/3/4x as many players which often forces you to engage the sturmpios directly.
USF has it worst because at least ukf you can tank with the UC and you start with an infantry section. USF gets stuck with the underwhelming RE and lack any vehicles or suppression options that early.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 05:51 AMullumulu

A-move Sturmpios? So they will fight from long range, right? and than u struggle vs them? with what? a Medic?

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 07:08 AMSerrith

What...?

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 04:58 AMSerrith

USF has it worst

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 07:58 AMEsxile

What for camping the entire map if the OKW player takes and hold your cutoff with 3 volks behind sandbags?

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 08:14 AMthedarkarmadillo

soviet say hello.
they have to build t1 (taking time) and then penals (more time, and lots of mp) to have half a chance because cons cant stand, the maxim wont cut it and CE.... well as i say, if players were not forced to use them... they wouldnt..
soviet have to forfeit all map control to face against the okw starter unit

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 09:12 AMSerrith

What, as in are you agreeing or disagreeing with me that USF has the worst time against sturmpios initially? You may have to re-read my initial post, because I think you may have missed my point.



Maxim's cut it as much as any other single MG against a single unit. If they are flanked, they are screwed, if they are charged they suppress the target. But yes soviets do have to go either tier 1 or tier 2 to fight against sturmpios, that means they have options. USF does not.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 00:15 AMKoRneY

Tell us more about your experience with lower ELO.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 09:34 AMEsxile

-but saying on 1vs1 you can just spread and cap the map is wrong. OKW player will just send all his forces at your cutoff and hold it with sandbags. That's basically the issue here,

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 09:34 AMEsxile

Maxim are trash, and I'm not even a regular soviet player. They are only good if you already have penals or guards to suport them.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 12:17 PMSerrith

Are these observations from the GCS, or personal experience? Because in my respective ELO brackets, OKW sturmpios rushing my cutoff in 1v1 is not a problem I have. For USF its the poor tech structure, and for UKF its cloaked raketens nuking my UC.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2018, 13:05 PMEsxile

I'm sorry but where the hell did I said rushing with Sturmpio? As for GCS experience, I let you check Ikab vs HelpingHans qualification match.
There is no match between Ikab and Helpinghans, the second is waaay stronger that the 1st one but because OKW has so much advantage over USF early game, Ikab simply rolled over HelpingHans in less than 10 minutes.