Panther, why does it have heavy crush?

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 09:30 AMThe amazing Chandler

Can someone elaborate that? What's the logic behind this?
As far as i know the Panther is a medium Tank and they don't have heavy crush.
I know that the Brummbär has also heavy crush and i kinda get it on this one but why the Panther?

Thanks in advance.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 09:45 AMLeOverlord

And USF's M10 has heavy crush, but it's a Tank Destroyer

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 09:33 AMSander93

It weighs 45 tonnes

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 09:45 AMLeOverlord

And USF's M10 has heavy crush, but it's a Tank Destroyer

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:06 AMVipper

Heavy crush help with the mobility of a unit since it can crush some objects instead of going around them.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:08 AMsherlock

No, the M10 has medium crush, meaning that it cannot break hedges and tank traps.

As to the question of the thread, I sadly do not know the answer but the panther also used to have heavy crush in coh1 (if I remember correctly), so that might be why. Due to its armour and the health bonuses at vet 2 it comes very close to a heavy tank.

The pershing is another medium tank with heavy crush.

Comet, oddly, even though it is somewhat similar to the panther doesn't. So there is no clear distinction as to what medium tank does get heavy crush.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:10 AMThe amazing Chandler

The Sherman weights up to 38 Tons (depending on the model), the T34/85 up to 35 tons, the Comet 33 tons.
So this small difference makes the difference if you get heavy crush or not? I dont think so.
Besides, the Brummbär weights 28 tons !?!?!?

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:14 AMThe amazing Chandler

I know that, but why only this MEDIUM tank.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:08 AMsherlock

No, the M10 has medium crush, meaning that it cannot break hedges and tank traps.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:29 AMVipper

I have not check which units have heavy crush or not.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:29 AMVipper

Panther does not seem able to crush tank traps either.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:41 AMsherlock

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It does, just check the game files.
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Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:41 AMsherlock

Heavy crush does not allow to crush tank traps apparently...

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:44 AMVipper

Some "super heavies" can crush tank traps if remember correctly but suffer a speed penalty.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:14 AMThe amazing Chandler

I know that, but why only this MEDIUM tank.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 10:58 AMsherlock

There is no distinction between the heavy crush of the panther and that of a tiger or elefant. I even quickly tried it in game. An elefant cannot crush usf tank traps.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 11:00 AMLago

The game treats it as a heavy. It even uses heavy skins.

Yeah, right(Like the Pershing is a medium but in the game it is a heavy tank).

But isn't that wrong? What is the justification behind that?

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 11:19 AMThe amazing Chandler

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My point is that in any case Wehrmacht has heavy crush with the Panther and the Brummbär.
All the other factions must choose a specific doctrine to get heavy crush.
Isn't this unfair (unbalanced)? Heavy crush can give you advantages in combat.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 11:04 AMVipper

I know "heavy crush" ability is there or not but I am still under the impression that KT can crush them. Haven't checked though.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 11:47 AMsherlock

Checked in game and it does not crush tank traps, unless there is something weird going on with the cheat mod. The classification "super heavy" does not exist in the game. A KT is just a heavy tank like the elefant. I also checked the game files and the tank traps are flagged as impassible for heavy crush, so unless I looked at the wrong entry no tank crushes tank traps.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 11:52 AMVipper

Maybe its dozer then?