Mechanized Assault broken ?
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Assggrens(around 4-5 squads) into Sdkfz 250 with Pzgrens into Stug III E. supported with Pak 40 into Tiger I. I stood no chance, when he got the Tiger I I just got my first T 34/76 out. I was pretty much impressed by this and decided to dig the Mechanized Assault Doctrine out of the Trashbin (didn't like it that much before) and try my own version of this tactic(which doesn't need any upgrades except to T2 (to get access to nades) and maybe T1 for building one Gren sqaud to counter light vehicles). So far I only have lost one battle (out of 4 or 5?) with this tactic and to be honest It kinda feels broken. You start with Assgrens to counter Infantry then you go Pzgrens with Schrecks to counter light vehicles, then you go Stug III E. to counter infantry and finally the Tiger I. to finish your enemy. I mean ... sure once your Tiger I gets destroyed its most likly GG because you have no other real tanks on the field but it still is a bit broke in my opinion(even in 2 vs 2 where Assgrens can be combined with Osttruppen).
In my opinion Assgrens should be moved to 1 CP in order to prevent an early spam of them.
If someone thinks that this commander is fine then I would like to hear the reason why because after all 5(or 4) matches don't say that much.
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What faction were you playing?
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What faction were you playing?
When using the commander obviously OST and while facing this commander SU.
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CaptainSPrice for example did some excessive hmg spam while playing really defensively to counter callin strats. This strat might be boring to play but counters callin strats as there is a low amount of damage that can get done by either player, this way callins come way too late to be effective.
Assgrens can get countered by any allied unit on long range otherwise by a few specialists if needed (rangers, paratroopers commandos or even a single schock squad). The biggest problem using assgrens is usually the low amount of faust platforms so you can go mad on ultra light and light vehicles.
If you want to test around with that commander you could add me for some games i play only few 1v1s but i have some experience on that commander.
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Unless you've already won by that point they know the Tiger is coming and they've got plenty of time to bring out the tools to fight it.
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you can hardcounter them by light vehicle like T-70 because since they go for pure assgren then they got no snare. if i encounter this myself i will just click IS2 commander then build double t-70 dont tech for tier 4 tho just wait for the IS2 but believe me the game should end eariler with t-70
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When you make it to top 10 with this strategy let me know.
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When you make it to top 10 with this strategy let me know.
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If he gets a tiger before ur medium then you fucked up.
Similarly your infantry outscales ass grens therefore the longer the game goes the worse they get.
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When you make it to top 10 with this strategy let me know.
I made to top 10, I got wreck by the ass grens strategy once on the map of the road to krovokve recently. The strategy is so cheesy, one ass grens supported with 2 mg and rush your cut off. And rush 222. Unless you previously play against the player before, the strategy sometimes caught me in surprise. Since I don't build m3 vs ost, by the time I realize what is going on and build m3 , his 222 was coming. Really cheesy strad sometimes.
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I made to top 10, I got wreck by the ass grens strategy once on the map of the road to krovokve recently. The strategy is so cheesy, one ass grens supported with 2 mg and rush your cut off. And rush 222. Unless you previously play against the player before, the strategy sometimes caught me in surprise. Since I don't build m3 vs ost, by the time I realize what is going on and build m3 , his 222 was coming. Really cheesy strad sometimes.
You say it yourself that this tactic only worked because it caught you by surprise. To me that is evidence that it's a good strategy rather than a broken one. It's risk-reward, and when it pays off it doesn't instantly mean its broken or OP. Move on.
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