Bring back two man/woman soviet snipers [poll]

Jump back to quoted post22 May 2018, 18:24 PMthedarkarmadillo

Proposal: 2 model recon squad something like pathfinder. vet 1 allows for a snipe ability like the the AA campagn but maybe a small amount of suppression. main role is recon type abilities. Flares, maybe a scout option (lock down when in Camo, provides improved Los and deception of camod units on the mini map) can build the blind from Soviet campagn.

Not a traditional sniper, but still unique and fills a unique role. Acts as a force multiplier and still synergies well with the Soviet roster from the maxim to artillery. Double sniper won't be forcing retreats on OST squads but will be punishing if left unchecked.

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2018, 07:21 AMSiphon X.

I made a poll on this before the patch went live (here). Unfortunately, the possible answers were worded not in the best way, but it is quite clear that this is quite a controversial topic.

I personally would have preferred to keep the two man sniper team to avoid further homogenization of factions. Yeah, it might be that the sniper previously was OP, but I would be very surprised if the team couldn't have been kept by making a few minor tweaks.

Interestingly, the soviet sniper team was rarely considered OP or even worthwhile in past iterations, in particular after losing sprint. E.g. if you check the numbers e.g. for WPC, snipers were build in only 15 out of 75 games, even though T1 was built in 36 games. So, it seems unlikely that a 2 man team can't be balanced...

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2018, 07:21 AMSiphon X.

for WPC, snipers were build in only 15 out of 75 games, even though T1 was built in 36 games. So, it seems unlikely that a 2 man team can't be balanced...

Jump back to quoted post23 May 2018, 14:16 PMShadowLinkX37

IIRC WPC occured post june 2016 patch, where USF mortars were laser guided and penal flamers were the meta. If that is correct that'd explain the construction of t1.

Jump back to quoted post22 May 2018, 18:24 PMthedarkarmadillo

Proposal: 2 model recon squad something like pathfinder. vet 1 allows for a snipe ability like the the AA campagn but maybe a small amount of suppression. main role is recon type abilities. Flares, maybe a scout option (lock down when in Camo, provides improved Los and deception of camod units on the mini map) can build the blind from Soviet campagn.

Not a traditional sniper, but still unique and fills a unique role. Acts as a force multiplier and still synergies well with the Soviet roster from the maxim to artillery. Double sniper won't be forcing retreats on OST squads but will be punishing if left unchecked.

Jump back to quoted post24 May 2018, 08:26 AMSander93

IMO all snipers should work like this, being force multipliers (by recon) instead of terminators. Steady damage-over-time with accurate rifle fire and maybe a snipe ability with munitions for when you really need to win a certain fight. Passive recon abilities that synergise with the rest of the army.

I would personally even go as far as to make recon a fundamental part of gameplay, with regular units having bad view range and needing recon units to function at full capacity. Like Wargame / Steel Division. But that's such a big change that it would be something for CoH3.