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The armour upgrade will improve AI capabilities as small arms fire is going to be less effective. The cost decrease will allow the 222 to make more reckless attemps to dive allied light vehicles. Two 222s, as is, will eviscerate any light allied armour if it can get rear armour.
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for a short while the axis 222 was extremely cost effective as anti-vehicle unit, but then their anti-infantry power was buffed and cost raised.
This also mean the 222 lost their cost effectiveness as anti-vehicle unit.
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222 makes only sense on open maps without to many blockers...because this thing dance around a stonefence like a authist and two of them will block themself and cant both turn backwards while togehter...they block their own way and dont want to drive the way the came...
Objects are what makes the 222 strong in the first place.
If you shoot a unit in front of a blocker, it will make a huge amount of additional damage because the shots will stop at the wall and the splash damage will be applied way better.
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I understand that people are sceptic about the new 222 though. The thing that really worries me is the lack of Brits snares against it.
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I hope we will see a return of the 222 as it used to be in Coh1. It could be used to actually engage blobs and snipe a model here and there. Currently I feel it lacks a certain purpose and cant really stand its ground.
I understand that people are sceptic about the new 222 though. The thing that really worries me is the lack of Brits snares against it.
CoH1 222 had completely different dynamics and role.
Plus, it couldn't engage any light vehicle heavier then a jeep at all.
It was within a faction that did not even had a proper med tank.
That 222 is never coming back.
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In addition the different mechanics between the 222, luch and Centaur only complicates things without actually creating better balance.
This weapon should have similar mechanics
Finally armored car like AEC Puma and 222 need to have their movement modifiers changed their speed on road needs to go down and their speed on yellow needs to go up.
There huge difference is modifier makes this unit perform inconstant in the duration of the game as the battlefield becomes a yellow cover.
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Maybe there should be a free unlock for it in T2 that would cost nothing but take quite some time to research, because if the change goes live, its gonna hit the field long before any counters have a chance to arrive.
Brits being ridiculously defenseles against LVs, assuming they dont get piats or the AT sections is a whole other problem
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Build AT.
And all your problems will go away.
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Didn't it use to be 180? 250 is absolutely ridiculous.
Years ago, when it had 200 hp and much weaker weapons.
250 is perfectly reasonable for what you get, compared to M20, which costs 320 and can't engage literally all targets.
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Years ago, when it had 200 hp and much weaker weapons.
250 is perfectly reasonable for what you get, compared to M20, which costs 320 and can't engage literally all targets.
200 is reasonable since Ostheer is manpower strained and you need 2 222's to fight other LV's.
The limiting factor is fuel, 60 fuel isn't cheap and 90 fuel is of the charts for what you get.
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200 is reasonable since Ostheer is manpower strained and you need 2 222's to fight other LV's.
The limiting factor is fuel, 60 fuel isn't cheap and 90 fuel is of the charts for what you get.
The actual controversy here is cost reduction and 50% armor buff.
One or the other, lets not get back to relic style overbuffing and overnerfing, usually leaving unit in the latter state.
Was it up to me, I'd left the cost where it is, gave it 2 additional armor and buffed MG34 as despite 34 scaling really well, its base dps is similar to that of AEC or puma coax.
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It´s kind of rediculous that M20 will remain at 320 MP while 222 will cost 200MP...How is that fair?
...Its not too late, these changes are not final
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