Spring Update - Balance thread

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:51 AMblvckdream

Just because someone is good at COH2 doesn´t mean he knows how to balance the game. Some "elite" players "balancing" the game behind closed curtains just doesn´t feel like a very good idea. Everyone who disagrees with them is labeled a bad player, troll, fanboy etc. Having great micro and abusing the latest op meta strats doesn´t make you great at balancing the game. I bet there are tons of people who know/understand more about the game than our last tourney winners.

The patch as it is right now is just not very good. Unfortunately no one listens to valid points people make because of ranks etc.

Why even make this thread if every valid point someone makes just ends in "best players contributed to patch bla bla bla"...

Just gets to show you how elitist the COH2 community is...Which is kind of ironic because winning some COH2 tournament is basically meaningless. "Elite COH2 players" should come down from their high horses IMO. You guys are not some SC2, LOL, DOTA2, CS stars...

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:56 AMsiddolio

To be good at coh you dont need good micro, you need pratical knowledge about the game. How to use units, cover.

If youre low rank you probably dont understand how to play coh in general, not that your micro is bad.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 11:00 AMKatitof

This.

This is also why People with most 'balance' Problems are alway 4 Digit below 1 WL People of one faction.
You limit yourself to tiny part of the game and refuse to learn even that tiny part, you can have best micro in the world and you will still suck, because you will try to use gren blob against tanks, which is not that rare from bottom tier players who spam balance threads.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:56 AMsiddolio

To be good at coh you dont need good micro, you need pratical knowledge about the game. How to use units, cover.

If youre low rank you probably dont understand how to play coh in general, not that your micro is bad.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 11:01 AMAlphrum

and so we should listen to people like you who don't even play the game, ok cool.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 09:16 AMvasa1719

You look like person who know somthing. So tell to us, what ranks of players can criticize, how many hours thay must have to do it ? And what another must to do, just look that some kind of abusers (suggested by the literal best players that this community has) you must write there names, if you use them like proofs to defend but not explaine patch changes. I think community must know heroes, specially part that are 2k ranks players and dont play game.
You guys use same logic taht close to Hainlaine books, where if you dont was in army, you dont have civil rights. For our community its more looks like part of nazi or rasism. Not top ???? 5 ? 10 ? 20 ? 50 ? You opinion are nothing untermench ? So tell to us Jae, how many top players watch you in tounreys ? 5 or 10 ? or maybe it was hundreds of regular players ?
Thanks, nice to know that in balance team are part of elite nazi players, that win 0 in Esport coh, but exhibit themselves like navel of Earth.
Wow, you say tourneys winners, so its must be DevM, Noggano, VonIvan, Jove, Barton, Luvnest, Paula ? How many time thay spend for it, coz thay study, work ? Or thay just make signature (good/bad changes) ?
Back again with few words, so this top players and tounrey winners are so good, so thay cannot push retreut buttno from katysha shoot, but dont have same problem with stuka and PW ? Did thay are best after this ?
Also constructors of planes are not best pilots, but best pilots are not constructors.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:01 AMLago

The M20 Utility Car's MG was never really a threat to it: its method of countering the 222 is mines and the crew bazooka, neither of which will be affected much by the armour change.

The AAHT has an autocannon which might be a little less effective at killing 222s now. You can usually get some RE bazookas out by the time you get the AAHT out.

Most of the 222's counters are AT weapons that shouldn't be hampered too much. It just won't be killed by infantry now.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:56 AMsiddolio

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Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 11:27 AMEsxile

I haven't been clear but I wasn't refereeing to the armor change but the price. Like many people already say in this thread, 444 and 666 are going to be meta at that price. For such a cheap price you are going to roam the battlefield with 2 or 3 222 with no fear of anything.

I'll not speak for UKF but as USF those changes combined together mean that you must invest yes or yes your early fuel to unlock zooks or must go lacklust T2 first to get an ATgun. That's the main issue with the USF gameplay design, USF lack of AT solution on the early game. Should the M1 ATG being tied to T0 after unlocking T1 or T2, I wouldn't care that much.

Now I'm not going crazy about it since changes are most likely going to evolve.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 11:43 AMAlphrum

oh damnnnn, usf actually have to be the ones reacting for once and investing resources to counter OST strat, damn should always be the other way round right?

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:56 AMsiddolio

To be good at coh you dont need good micro, you need pratical knowledge about the game. How to use units, cover.

If youre low rank you probably dont understand how to play coh in general, not that your micro is bad.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:54 AMsiddolio

The Panther armour hp change is a buff. If you really cant comprehend that youre a moron

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 11:27 AMEsxile

Should the M1 ATG being tied to T0 after unlocking T1 or T2

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 01:07 AMStorm Elite

Meanwhile, the Greyhound takes zero shots to kill with rifles, because it DOESN'T TAKE BULLET DAMAGE.

"Between armored cars and light armor"?? The 222 IS supposed to be an armored car. I don't understand this absurd insistance on keeping it unviable by making it take damage from bullets. There WHOLE point of ANY kind of light armored vehicle is to harass infantry. If it can't do that, there is absolutely no reason to use it.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 07:25 AMAarotron

i would have wanted cromwell to get better moving accuracy.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 10:21 AMKurfürst

The global Mortar nerfs I like. Though I guess it would be better to nerf the accuracy rather than the RoF, since sudden mortar wipes and consistent damage without bleed are a problem. It supposed to be a dislocation tool rather than a steady bleed tool. Which will remain the same with mortar spam.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2018, 13:03 PMJade Buddha

This change can be done by increasing its received accuracy. What the one man change actually does does is it makes the soviet sniper vulnerable to countersnipes.