Riflemen Sandbags

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2018, 17:32 PMVipper

All tank traps should have build time increased.

USF tank traps should be me moved to assault engineers, then sandbags could be moved to R.E.

UKF trench and sandbags should be moved to Ro.E.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 17:24 PMmondeogaming1

Thats actually a nerf to USF

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 18:19 PMVipper

R.E. having sandbags instead of tank traps is nerf?

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 18:48 PMmondeogaming1

Of course tank traps build faster than sandbags and if they change it to RE havign sandbags and no longer tank traps they can no logner block tanks

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 19:05 PMVipper

R.E. should not be able to block tanks and lay mines.

Tank trap should be move to assault engineers.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 19:48 PMmondeogaming1

But USF has only m7 light mines which are not that strong you just need to spam them its like you are telling me OKW doesnt need kuble wagen cuz they got strong volks behind cover and really strong sturms

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 17:06 PMmurky depths

I'd personally make it so mainline make crappier (yellow) sandbags or dirt mounds and the engineer units make proper green sandbags.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 20:48 PMCaptain QQ

Lets just make soviets even more vulnerable to spio cutoff rushes in the opening 3 minutes.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 21:08 PMCaptain QQ

You get there first and build a sandbag to defend against the possible cutoff/fuel rush from spios. No the cover bonus still exists but the range is what makes each unit more deadly so you stop noticing the cover as doing so much as it did. The bag is forcing to okw player to change its attack route giving time for the sov player to react by sending more men. Otherwise he risks 1-2 models getting dropped on the way to the bag.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 22:15 PMthedarkarmadillo

I dont want rifle sandbags. I want a reason to build fighting puts and RE not more reason only to spam rifles all game every game.

Reduce the price of the fighting pit and add it back on the MG upgrade. Then RE can make all round green cover. Its unique, its not just boring old sandbags

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 19:05 PMVipper

R.E. should not be able to block tanks and lay mines.

Tank trap should be move to assault engineers.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 19:57 PMVipper

And this brings back to your original argument. If one faction has non doctrinal access to tank traps all of them should have.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 22:06 PMTheGentlemenTroll

Cover Bonus is lost at point blank range.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 23:48 PMCaptain QQ

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Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2018, 19:46 PMTobis

Cover doesn't apply within 10 units except for garrison cover.

Each of the tick marks is 2 units, so it's about the length of a medium tank wreck. IIRC.
That means you should never ever think you are in cover next to a building, like the green cover wall surrounding the building on kholodny. Does nothing. Use the tank wrecks near by.


Also green cover is 5% better than garrison cover, if y'all didn't know that.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 22:38 PMmondeogaming1

This is the whole point no utility for riflemen and if my riflemen are hurt i need them to defend i want to make sure they are cover and if i dotn have RE around i cant protect them and you think IS and volks havign sandbags its a good idea riflemen cost 280 manpower and have the less versatility as other core main lien infrantry allthow all other main line infrantry at least have one type of defense

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2018, 20:32 PMDreadnought_

what is wrong with your riflemen?! Ost Grens can only built a bunker (for MP not free) and only when in friendly territory and 150 MP is not available all the time especially early game. Instead they have to do something else... Play the game be micromanaged and FIND cover . Please don't start with cheaper unit quotes cause rifles have 1 extra man and 1v1 they win in all ranges.Best solution would be only engineers to be able to make green cover and mainline infantry should support and cover fire them if they want them to make one

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 22:38 PMmondeogaming1

This is the whole point no utility for riflemen and if my riflemen are hurt i need them to defend i want to make sure they are cover and if i dotn have RE around i cant protect them and you think IS and volks havign sandbags its a good idea riflemen cost 280 manpower and have the less versatility as other core main lien infrantry allthow all other main line infrantry at least have one type of defense