The jagdpanzer 4.

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It is kind of in a bad spot. Not that i am saying it needs a buff, but it is kind of overshadowed by the Stug 3 and the SU- 76.

Unfortunaly, i don't know a proper idea on how to improve it when compared to the other SPG's(it has stealth, but that got a minor nerf a while ago) so that's why i made this thread in order to see how other people think about it.

What do you people think about the Jagdpanzer 4?

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9 Feb 2018, 13:54 PMA table

It is kind of in a bad spot. Not that i am saying it needs a buff, but it is kind of overshadowed by the Stug 3 and the SU- 76.

Unfortunaly, i don't know a proper idea on how to improve it when compared to the other SPG's(it has stealth, but that got a minor nerf a while ago) so that's why i made this thread in order to see how other people think about it.

What do you people think about the Jagdpanzer 4?

It's too expensive, that's my main problem with it.

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i would increase its armor.

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Nerf stug and su-76?

Jackson and firefly also need nerfs, so the jp4 isn't bullied by them.

jp4 itself is fine.

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JP4 is ok as it is. Just M36 that is OP currently. SU 85 self spotting ability could be moved to vet 1 too. Firefly seems ok after DBP nerf.

SU76 needs to be nerfed, Stug3 needs slight ROF nerf too.

Basically what Zarok said.

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9 Feb 2018, 14:47 PMblvckdream

Firefly seems ok after DBP nerf.

FF is way to accurate since it has the highest mid range of any other TD including JP and Elephant.

Su-85 pop need to go up.

JP need to have its role defined. If it is a counter to mediums it need to have less pop and cost even if that mean lower HP/armor.

If it a counter to super heavies it need more penetration.

I would also be tempted to swap TWP for cloak from Stug to JP, since OKW have enough cloaked units and Ostheer have enough TWP.

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it is best vs other tds, but you can't let them flank you.

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Jp4 needs a slight cost decrease nothing more imo

BUT

Jackson needs to go from 60 range to 55

su76 needs either a slight cost increase or higher cost on its AI barrage

Stugs rate of fire from its vet needs to go down

Su85 self spotting is dumb

Firefly is in a good spot