Comet
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I just hate how units get nerfed to fubar, it never beat panthers in AT the way it was before nerf that was a giant lie. Make something good about it please that outweighs the cost like maybe AI of that of the cromwell because right now it makes no sense to get the comet for anything it just sucks at everything relative to its cost.
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Also its great against anything below a panther (great armour, great pen, longer range) and its good against infantry too. Cant have it all at once contrary to its previous "no limit non doc pershing+" design capable of beating a panther in a slugfest 40% of the time but also more mobile and with better modifiers and the ability to fight infantry and the ability to click 2 times and kill any weapon team including AT guns who its WP outranged cause reasons...
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really? you want to win with a comet vs super heavys? take the Firefly and a the 6pounder and laugh about super heavys
This is correct.
The comet is (and was) not meant to counter Tank Destroyers as the Panther who have the sole role of countering tanks themselves.
It is meant to be some kind of a stock Tiger for the Brits meaning good AI and good AT (against mediums and below).
You also do not drive up to a supported Jackson with a Tiger.
It might have been overnerfed, but being able to defeat Panthers is not a good ground for complaints in my opinion.
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This is correct.
The comet is (and was) not meant to counter Tank Destroyers as the Panther who have the sole role of countering tanks themselves.
It is meant to be some kind of a stock Tiger for the Brits meaning good AI and good AT (against mediums and below).
You also do not drive up to a supported Jackson with a Tiger.
It might have been overnerfed, but being able to defeat Panthers is not a good ground for complaints in my opinion.
yeah..i use the comet as a hit-and-run tank speedster and to kill some models with mostly every shot ..
its a super mobil tank with nice tools and perfomanche..but can´t deal alone vs a panther in a dog fight...only while moving...the panther wouldnt hit ..
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This is correct.
The comet is (and was) not meant to counter Tank Destroyers as the Panther who have the sole role of countering tanks themselves.
It is meant to be some kind of a stock Tiger for the Brits meaning good AI and good AT (against mediums and below).
You also do not drive up to a supported Jackson with a Tiger.
It might have been overnerfed, but being able to defeat Panthers is not a good ground for complaints in my opinion.
+1
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And brits do have a dedicated tank to take on Heavies its the Firefly and its very good at what it does.
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It never beat panthers in AT the way it was before nerf that was a giant lie.
Now who is lying now
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Mediocre tank
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So either make this late game tank that cost a lot actually able to penetrate heavies and panthers so it can at least make them think a little about charging it or diving against it or make it actaully have at least the AI main gun potential of other mediums in the game.
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the comet is in a good spot.
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Your mis understanding
an american that doesnt know the difference between your and you're
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This is correct.
The comet is (and was) not meant to counter Tank Destroyers as the Panther who have the sole role of countering tanks themselves.
It is meant to be some kind of a stock Tiger for the Brits meaning good AI and good AT (against mediums and below).
You also do not drive up to a supported Jackson with a Tiger.
It might have been overnerfed, but being able to defeat Panthers is not a good ground for complaints in my opinion.
Comparing a jackson and a tiger is not the same thing as comparing a panther and comet. Panther is a "tank hunter" not a tank destroyer, jagdpanzer is a tank destroyer, FF is, stug is, jackson is, su 85 is. Why is panther not a TD. Well because none of those other tanks either have the armor, health and OR speed to chase down wounded tanks and do it relatively safely because panther also has great escape helped further with a lot of popular docs abilitys (tact smoke, blitz). One of those above might have one of them but not all 3.
Also the TDs i mentioned above have almost 0 AI ability, panthers is not the best but it does have some the mg42 pintle is actually pretty good.
However I agree I dont expect it to out duke a panther as panther AI is not that great so thats the panthers good AT tank hunter niche. I just think comet was a bit over nerfed either in the penetration department or the AI department and it would be nice to be able to field it again but right now its just never worth it outshined by all the better tools that do their jobs more effectively.
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Within the faction a cromwell is perhaps 50% to 100% better vs infantry. If you can manuever and use shot blockers to avoid AT gun fire the cromwell is much better purchase vs infantry and fine vs tanks with its better reload and veterancy. When theres tons of AT a comet may be better with the range and armor it has simply b/c you can troll from long range and be more annoying.
Compared to a panther, the main gun is better on a comet but the MGs are much better on the panther. Up close the panther can probably keep pace killing infantry for that reason.
I do think the Unit is worth buying for its combination of armor and speed but its sad to see it adjacent to infantry and unable to kill more than 1/2 models while a squad decaps and caps a point as was my experience recently.
It could and Should Receive Mg buffs so it can do more vs infantry when you are putting your vehicle at risk up close. Other than that the unit seems ok, Theres good parity in brit tank purchases outside the Chruchill to me right now but the comet does seem unwieldy outside of teamgames where you have tons and tons of fuel.
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The WP round nerf was a fair change but the pop cap increase means you lose more MP income meaning you'll get less field control which isn't necessarily a bad thing but when you include that, at the same time the accuracy/scatter changes(nerf) means you are less effective with the unit. a
I'm not suggesting any kind of buffs as its such a complex unit but it feels out of place for sure, its supposed to be okay at getting infantry but comes out at the same time (if not later sometimes) as the panther meaning most of the time its goint to be engaging with panthers and should be at least semi competent. With the gun states the way that they are means It simply cant do either of those engagements fairly well meaning most of the times you will see people opting for a simple cromwell or firefly to fill the caps in their line or b/c they are easier to replace and spam (meaning you can flank panthers).
Thats my two cents on it.
TLDR: its just too expensive in the brit tech tree (or not cost effective for its performance) and simply doesn't fit well into the current meta we have now.
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It is a very strong unit. Asymetrically (is that a word?) the comet and the panther have a direct rivalry.
A FF - Comet combo is very strong AT, it has build in superspeed and with phosphor you can dispose anything that uncloaks in front of you. Or block LOS which can be pretty neat sometimes if used correctly.
It is not the ideal infantry killer anymore but still not bad at all.
Imo utilizing its amount of flexibility still justifies its cost.
Also when playing OKW i just noticed ...unvetted raketens are pretty shitty against its frontal armor.
Noob move...
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I'm tired of anecdotal bullshit of who pens whom the best and whatnot...
Just get pen and armor between the discussed units and divide them, boom. Noone would have to pull made up numbers out of their a**es but where's the fun in that am I right?
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