CoH 2 DPS Spreadsheet

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 01:11 AMTurtle

Not misses, but what individual entity the soldier fires the weapon at, where the damage is applied.

Squad A firing on Squad X with regular rifles. What do they fire at, where is the damage concentrated in a squad to cause early deaths.

Easy enough with cannons and mortars since that's just where the round hits.

But I'm trying to figure out if stuff like the LMG spreads out the damage like a squad weapon, or if it really is applying all of its damage to just 1 soldier. And, if it will continue firing at the same selected target.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 01:23 AMSkynyrd

So, was the PGren G43 changed in this patch too? Or is it just the Grenadier version which was mentioned in the notes? Now that the patch is live, can someone check this in the files?

If it's still at 30 damage, which G43 is overall better? I reckon the Gren one is slightly better at long range while the Pgren G43 is better at short range. Looking at the sheet, it doesn't seem worth it to upgrade it on Grenadiers if you got PGs at hand, seeing as you pay the same munitions price for both

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 01:57 AMwooof

i just checked. pgren g43 is unchanged. based purely on stats, i guess the pgren g43 is better. its barely worse at long range but much better at close range. the differece is the pgrens lose mp44s, which already do great dps at close range. so upgrading g43s on pgrens improved their long range dps, but actually hurts their near dps. g43s on grens is an upgrade in every way. based on that, id rather have g43s on grens and keep my pgrens for close range. it really comes down to preference though.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 04:18 AMSkynyrd

In comparison, G43 Grenadiers are pretty fucked if a unit charges into close range. When a player sees G43s on Grenadiers, he will charge them. When he sees them on Pgrens he has to decide if it's worth the risk of getting bundled. If he wont, then the G43s will deal a lot of damage to him

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 12:56 PMTensaiOni

Even with the recent change to G43s, it's still one of the best close range weapons out there and G43 Grenadiers will lose only to Shock Troops (assuming no granades and same vet levels).

Even if some other soviet weapons/squads are slightly stronger than G43 at close range (PPSh conscripts, Penals, Guards) they will lose enough HP when moving up to Grens to lose the whole engagement.

So, no, I wouldn't say that G43 Grens are fucked up when someone charges up to them.

Jump back to quoted post10 Oct 2013, 17:26 PMNullist

Dont G43-Grens lose to Penals at close range?

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