The Metagame: HMG Spam

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2013, 18:41 PMpqumsieh

Just a few quick points, we are aware that HMG are fairly dominant in the current meta game, partly as a result of their durability. It is something we are hoping to resolve in the future.

Keep in mind though, a simple health decrease will only resolve that issue so long as the original crew retains the weapon. Once you recrew it with another squad, the weapon team will take on the new durability values of the crewing entities.

edit: perhaps a received damage modifier would be a better suggestion

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2013, 18:21 PMCryptacide

This may be a dumb question, but, if you re-crew with say, a vet2 gren squad, does this mean the new mg squad will have increased durability?

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2013, 16:02 PMNullist

Makes flanking and even direct assault effective from behind cover if you can close within the minimum range, thereby making HMGS ineffective at simply turning (while withstanding fire) and continuing fire.

You don't yet appreciate the genius of this solution.

And there is a precedent on RNades having minimum range.
I know it breaks the vCoH precedent, but I think this solution is tactically, statwise, and economically overall the soundest.

Think about it for a minute. Just one minute. Thats all I ask.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2013, 20:50 PMCryptacide

Just as pqumsieh stated. A received accuracy modifier would be appropriate here. But, can that be directional? As in, a HMG making a soft retreat takes more damage getting shot in the back, or getting shot in the back from a flank. They do it with tanks, I don't see why it can't be done with infantry.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 03:00 AMpewpewforyou

HMG spam is ridiculous, to the point that I rarely play anymore... Coming out the gate to see at least 2 MG42s waiting is just old and boring. I'm pretty much forced into getting a flaming clown car to deal with it, which leads to the same build order in almost every game. The OP is 100% spot on in all of his points. Nothing pisses me off more than perfectly flanking a HMG, then having that stupid thing keep spinning around and randomly setting up while my little fairy conscripts dance around it and plink away. Inevitably, one of the retards will auto seek cover or somehow run into the arc and get the whole squad pinned. Then I've wasted all of that time and effort for nothing.

So yeah, until there's a better solution in place, pardon me for not being thrilled to play this game. Another hint: my "brave" soldiers should stand back up after the gun is no longer shooting at them. They don't have to keep crawling around on the ground for 5 more minutes.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 18:35 PMfriedchicken

well said.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 19:08 PMpanzerjager2

Of course the friedfag will agree ... even to a blowjob as long as Germans are nerfed.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 20:13 PMfriedchicken

If I'm not mistaken this is a public forum, and i am free to express my opinions as long as it is within the forums rules, and if you actually took the time to read his reply instead of running around like a ninja trying to be the first to comment to one of my posts, you would have noticed that he wasn't even talking about Nerf's, he was simply stating how frustrating it is when every game you end up with the same builds, because everyone just spams MG.

Maybe you should stop creating boo-hoo threads about how op everything is and play the game, maybe you will be able to contribute something for once instead of copy/paste posting the same garbage in every thread, it's funny how you're quick to call for a mod to ban me, when your running around using profanity and personal attacking people just because they are trying to share there observations/opinions.

forums, how do they work?

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 21:09 PMpanzerjager2

Ok I am getting a little fed up with your flame baiting so I'll bother replying to your whiny posts one more time.

It goes both ways, if I feel that SU85 is too OP for its price its my opinion and if I want to create a thread about it, its not against forum rules. Its not my problem if I offended your soviet fanboism by dare saying su85 needs a nerf.

You on the other hand blatantly resort to trolling, personal insults and flame baiting. You follow me on every thread posting shit and expect me to keep quiet. You have no interest in legitimately discussing balance issues and are only interested in flame baiting and annoying other users on this forum.

The mods will decide if you or anyone else needs a ban. They have all the proof there is based on your history of posts and the fact that others have called you out on the other thread discussing the su85. You proved beyond doubt you have no interest in balance dicussions beyond wanting your Russian side buffed.

With that said I'm done entertaining your trolling.Grow the fuck up.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 19:08 PMpanzerjager2

Of course the friedfag will agree ... even to a blowjob as long as Germans are nerfed.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2013, 21:09 PMpanzerjager2

With that said I'm done entertaining your trolling.Grow the fuck up.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2013, 06:13 AMNullist

HMG spam is fail on both factions.

Its a strong start, but can be immediately countered by light vehicles, and they become a burden in mid-late game.