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Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 07:54 AMKurtWilde

Did anyone try the KV1? Worthwhile?

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 13:19 PMIJustDontCare

"Osttruppen
We find that the early game of the Osttruppen doctrine is generally too overbearing for most players, especially in light of the other changes to the doctrine. To reduce this early game pressure and scaling of Osttruppen squads with picked up weapons, we are implementing the following changes:
Max slots limited to 1
Cooldown between successive Osttruppen squads increased from 12 to 35"

I hate this change so much primarily due to the reasoning behind it.

Second, tripling the cooldown is rather harsh and honestly makes getting ostruppen pointless in my opinion, the whole point of the doctrine was to mass produce them, but they fall off very quickly once mainline infantry from the enemy team has come out.

Most of the time people struggle with ostruppen because they're caught by surprise by the doctrine being picked despite seeing it in the load out and forget how fast they can cap the map if you neglect them.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 13:19 PMIJustDontCare

"Osttruppen
We find that the early game of the Osttruppen doctrine is generally too overbearing for most players, especially in light of the other changes to the doctrine. To reduce this early game pressure and scaling of Osttruppen squads with picked up weapons, we are implementing the following changes:
Max slots limited to 1
Cooldown between successive Osttruppen squads increased from 12 to 35"

I hate this change so much primarily due to the reasoning behind it.

Second, tripling the cooldown is rather harsh and honestly makes getting ostruppen pointless in my opinion, the whole point of the doctrine was to mass produce them, but they fall off very quickly once mainline infantry from the enemy team has come out.

Most of the time people struggle with ostruppen because they're caught by surprise by the doctrine being picked despite seeing it in the load out and forget how fast they can cap the map if you neglect them.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 14:59 PMSwift

I think it could be interesting. What I don't like is the slot limitation, especially given the changes to dropped weapons for Ostruppen there's really no need to punish them so hard.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 08:12 AMjagd wölfe

Absolutely kv1 is decent and rules over medium with his armor + call in.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 16:35 PMMr.Smith

Ostruppen now already get a guaranteed slot item (LMG42 upgrade); previously they had none. Since we don't have the time to evaluate all possible interactions with picked up slot items, it seemed fair to restrict Ostruppen in that regard.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 16:59 PMSwift

So you mean the lmg is not affected by picked up weapons? They can still equip it even with a scavenged slot item?

If so, then that's fine.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 18:55 PMShadowLinkX37

If this patch is centered around teamgames why is there no T34/85 and easy 8 nerfs? Those units stats are way to good for their price. Same for IL-2 straffes. Certain IL-2 loiters can delete squads.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 18:55 PMShadowLinkX37

If this patch is centered around teamgames why is there no T34/85 and easy 8 nerfs? Those units stats are way to good for their price. Same for IL-2 straffes. Certain IL-2 loiters can delete squads.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 20:09 PMDangerous-Cloth

T34-85 isn't really that great to be honest. It has mediocre armor and lower health, which means that by the time it hits the field, it will face multiple stugs, jp4s or Panthers. The Easy 8 is indeed too good. But I believe it has received moving scatter nerfs. Also tied to tech now I believe.

I believe m10s are more of a problem, since they are a no brainer low fuel 8cp call in that requires no thought or teching. Too spammable.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 08:12 AMjagd wölfe

Absolutely kv1 is decent and rules over medium with his armor + call in.

Jump back to quoted post5 Dec 2017, 20:32 PMSkysTheLimit

Locked in t4 now tho