Penals op

Jump back to quoted post6 May 2017, 16:33 PMfrostbite

penals are high reinforcement cost, high pop cap 9, high buy cost 300. and slow to get out on field. have no oh rah easy to pinn and lose manpower. lose long range to volks and gren which cost less. snare is easy to dodge. ptrs kills anti infintry ability. if u keep killing penals u drain enough mp to give u a good chance to win the game. penals were nerfed already last patch now they being talked about like there even strong. penals are fine

Jump back to quoted post8 May 2017, 13:16 PMullumulu

they are too strong since they wipe squads...on the move..unupgraded. Cause their accurracy+ reload is too high.

Jump back to quoted post9 May 2017, 00:02 AMkingdun3284

Strum can wipe squads on the move while unupgraded.

Jump back to quoted post9 May 2017, 00:02 AMkingdun3284

Strum can wipe squads on the move while unupgraded.

Jump back to quoted post5 May 2017, 13:02 PMle_saucisson_masque

you had more than 8 month to give your point of view on penal, now it's too late.

Jump back to quoted post9 May 2017, 07:34 AMHighfiveeeee

Guys, it's called "Sturm", meaning "storm" in English, which is the exact same fucking word only with a U instead of an O. Why do you always need to write more complicated and wrong words?

German: "Sturmpioniere"
English: "Stormpioneers"

German: "Sturmgrenadiere"
English: "Stormgrenadiers"

The Sturmgrenadiers use the MP40, the Sturmpioneers use the StG 40 (Sturmgewehr 40).

If you want to continue a discussion with me about this topic, please us the PM

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 13:30 PMYukiko

Hid one off topic post and edited two others to keep the thread more civil.

Jump back to quoted post9 May 2017, 23:04 PMBulgakov

LOL "too late"

Why on earth would it ever be too late to raise an issue? Do you think one change will happen and that is the CHANGE TO END ALL CHANGES? Wake up dude.

It wasn't clear to see from just patch notes and beta testing. Now it's pretty clear. I've seen it 5/6 games vs Soviets PENALS - DSHK - SHERMANZ

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 17:40 PMle_saucisson_masque

thank you !



you had 6 MONTH to get your shit up and tell to the balance team what you think about penal.
if you couldn't do it in 6 month, i seriously doubt you can do it now, i mean speaking on balance with real arguments, stats and maybe even a replay.

so here is my point, again, no one gives a shit about your "issue" anymore.
With some luck, they could be allowed to keep working on balance and so can't waste another 6 month testing penals because you were "too slow" (nothing insulting)

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 17:40 PMle_saucisson_masque

thank you !



you had 6 MONTH to get your shit up and tell to the balance team what you think about penal.
if you couldn't do it in 6 month, i seriously doubt you can do it now, i mean speaking on balance with real arguments, stats and maybe even a replay.

so here is my point, again, no one gives a shit about your "issue" anymore.
With some luck, they could be allowed to keep working on balance and so can't waste another 6 month testing penals because you were "too slow" (nothing insulting)

if there is further change in balance, i look forward to see you in feedback thread

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 17:51 PMVipper

I and other members of the community, actually pointed out the problems that will come from:
1) USF mortar
2) Penals X2 far DPS
3) VG ST44
in the feedback for the June patch of 2016 to Relic (who is the one the implement the changes and not modders), but they decided to go ahead anyway. So feed back was there a year ago Relic simply choose not to listen.

So it is not actually an issue of not giving feedback.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 19:02 PMle_saucisson_masque

i am not speaking about the RELIC "balance" patch which is a joke.

it's about the april 2017 balance patch, supervised by Smith/GG/miragefla : you could download a mod to test the change and give feedback already in october 2016.

i can still remember this thread on feedback, with dozens of page on people giving their point of view on penal. sometimes interesting point of view, supported by replay, often the usual bullshit we see in balance forum.

Jump back to quoted post10 May 2017, 22:54 PMVipper

All patch go thru Relic. They make all the decisions.

I and other members did downloaded the preview ,test it and give feedback. Relic give a choice for Penals between flamers and PTRS and the majority chose to remove flamers.