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can we get a arty buff for all factions

2 Apr 2017, 01:56 AM
#1
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can we make 105mm 152mm 203mm howitzers better for there cost and pop cap static unit die to fast most of the time. and dont deal out the same amount of dmg that mobile arty like katy pwerfer stuka does for them to be static maybe they should be better then the mobile arty units
2 Apr 2017, 02:09 AM
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The problem with static arty is just that, it's static. That means it's easy targets for rocket arty, offmap and especially 1 click abilities like the infamous stuka dive bomb. There isn't exactly a whole lot to be done here though. As long as 1 click abilities exist and static arty remains static it will just be countered. I don't see a way of justifying 600 manpower for an LeFH or Pak43 when you can just drop 205mm on it. Same goes for B4 and ML152, easy targets for dive bomb.
2 Apr 2017, 02:18 AM
#3
avatar of frostbite

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agreed shadow. i was thinking make the pop cap on arty significantly less so that when u get off maped ur not poor and about to lose now cuz u invested so much
2 Apr 2017, 02:30 AM
#4
avatar of Cafo

Posts: 245

well they could make a stuka dive bomb only do like 90% of its health so they could do something about offmaps by making static arty and paks more durable, for example a stuka wont 1 shot a brit fortification, while less resources are used to make them.
2 Apr 2017, 03:18 AM
#5
avatar of wongtp

Posts: 647

we've known it since coh2 release.

people deem it okay to counter a 600mp howitzer, which is completely stupid and detrimental to the gameplay.
2 Apr 2017, 04:22 AM
#6
avatar of JackDickolson

Posts: 181

No.


Arty needs nerfs. Yes including the offmap ones which oneshot buildings.
2 Apr 2017, 05:33 AM
#8
avatar of Nano

Posts: 212

No.


Arty needs nerfs. Yes including the offmap ones which oneshot buildings.


I used to agree, but once you have seen just how much the British can cancer up a 3v3 or 4v4, you will see that arty nerf is a bad plan.

Probably just Caliope and Land Mattress just need a little balancing (like slight adjustments) and we should be fine.
2 Apr 2017, 16:26 PM
#12
avatar of strafniki

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maybe all howitzers should receive some structure + brace button? :drool:
2 Apr 2017, 16:32 PM
#13
avatar of frostbite

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maybe all howitzers should receive some structure + brace button? :drool:

thats a pretty good idea, or a upgrade for offmap defence
2 Apr 2017, 16:38 PM
#15
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The problem with static arty is just that, it's static. That means it's easy targets for rocket arty, offmap and especially 1 click abilities like the infamous stuka dive bomb. There isn't exactly a whole lot to be done here though. As long as 1 click abilities exist and static arty remains static it will just be countered. I don't see a way of justifying 600 manpower for an LeFH or Pak43 when you can just drop 205mm on it. Same goes for B4 and ML152, easy targets for dive bomb.


And how would you suggest to fix this issue ?
2 Apr 2017, 16:49 PM
#16
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And how would you suggest to fix this issue ?


Personally I had no idea. But strafniki did IMO

maybe all howitzers should receive some structure + brace button? :drool:


I think if they could have some form of damage reduction to at least withstand a dive bomb or mattress that could be alright. It'd work similar to brace but hopefully not as gimmicky.
2 Apr 2017, 20:26 PM
#17
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As my previous comment got deleted:

Howitzer is fine as it is. It is there to counter greedy players who choose a doc very early (like partysans). If you were greedy yourself and build one early on, you also deserve to get it removed as howitzer gameplay is lame and boring and basically killed coh1 teamgames.
2 Apr 2017, 21:36 PM
#18
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no nerf all mobile arties
2 Apr 2017, 22:08 PM
#19
avatar of Stark

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I think if they could have some form of damage reduction to at least withstand a dive bomb or mattress that could be alright. It'd work similar to brace but hopefully not as gimmicky.


But again, you suggest that there is a brace button so dive bomb wouldn't kill arty for 600mp. So it would be a waste of 160ammo. Remember that counters to static arty aren't really cheap.
2 Apr 2017, 22:08 PM
#20
avatar of Stark

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As my previous comment got deleted:

Howitzer is fine as it is. It is there to counter greedy players who choose a doc very early (like partysans). If you were greedy yourself and build one early on, you also deserve to get it removed as howitzer gameplay is lame and boring and basically killed coh1 teamgames.


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