A Stupid Idea for USF

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 20:44 PMVaz

So you can reinforce from a rear echelon squad? Am I reading this right? Sounds pretty stupid if so.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 21:56 PMTiger Baron

I think he means swaping the driving squad of the ambulance with REs.

Perhaps he's asking if it's viable.

Problem is is that if you lose the ambulance you lose a more combat effective than the medics squad, which is also your main builder and repair unit, as well as their ability to volley fire which may be crucial in some early game parts in order to gain ground and force the enemy to retreat.

But yeah, you then have 2 healing units and the REs can repair the ambulance.

I'd say see how it works out for you and then maybe report back here.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 21:56 PMTiger Baron

I think he means swaping the driving squad of the ambulance with REs.

Perhaps he's asking if it's viable.

Problem is is that if you lose the ambulance you lose a more combat effective than the medics squad, which is also your main builder and repair unit, as well as their ability to volley fire which may be crucial in some early game parts in order to gain ground and force the enemy to retreat.

But yeah, you then have 2 healing units and the REs can repair the ambulance.

I'd say see how it works out for you and then maybe report back here.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 22:02 PMVuther

If that is indeed the topic (for I am also unsure), my suggestion would be to wait for the next patch to drop. My attempts to do it ended just with frustration from my medics not healing unless I microed them to do it or chasing my units when I didn't want them to - both things which are set to be fixed by the next patch.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 21:56 PMTiger Baron

as well as their ability to volley fire which may be crucial in some early game parts in order to gain ground and force the enemy to retreat.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 22:09 PMAngrade (Ægion)

Sorry if I was a bit unclear. I was thinking that if you lose an ambulance it would hurt less if you have the medics already out. Then, you will not need to rebuild an ambulance for the heals. Alternatively you can have the medics out on the field healing squads that just got out of combat, also increasing field presence.



Yes, this will help when these bugs/oversights fixed.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 23:43 PMSturmpanther

The thing is, that the ambulance heals all near units at the same time!

The doctors can heal only 1 squad at the same time.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 23:20 PMelchino7

Since the nerf, Volley fire is no longer viable unless your opponent is asleep. You won't suppress anyone fast enough before they focus fire the RE and kill you.

OP: IMO you are just handicapping yourself in case something goes wrong. If you can somehow make medics jump before the ambulance get's killed that's "good" but putting a utility/combat unit out of the match is never a good idea.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 00:33 AMNubb3r

This sounds like a cool idea, but USF aura heal is really good and you wouldn't want to risk it. Though I would recommend to put medics into your (team game) allies' base. Brits for example could use medics in their base. You swap a wounded RE squad in, no ned to reinforce since ambo only takes two (?) crewmen and you put your medics into your brit friends' base. Brit heal sucks, because you need to have a medic section with the other units that need to be healed. Also there is no risk of mismicro for the brit, since its not his own medic so he doesn't control it.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 09:53 AMAngrade (Ægion)

Personally I think the British healing is actually on the strong side. Being able to heal your Infantry Sections on the field, increasing longevity of the squads. However, it would be nice if you could provide healing to their Royal Engineers and non-vet 3 Commandos with your now spare medics.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 20:00 PMAngrade (Ægion)

People love to bring their Ambulance forward to create early and aggressive map pressure. However, this is very dangerous. There is a way to reduce the danger swap the Medics with Rear Echelons. It should still heal and reinforce while still having the medics back at base ready to heal infantry squads that retreat. What do you all think? Could this work or is it not worth?

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 13:40 PMJespe

Tried it couple of times.

Killed those medics unknowlingly because they seem to follow infantry that is not healed completely.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2017, 21:56 PMTiger Baron

I think he means swaping the driving squad of the ambulance with REs.

Perhaps he's asking if it's viable.

Problem is is that if you lose the ambulance you lose a more combat effective than the medics squad, which is also your main builder and repair unit, as well as their ability to volley fire which may be crucial in some early game parts in order to gain ground and force the enemy to retreat.

But yeah, you then have 2 healing units and the REs can repair the ambulance.

I'd say see how it works out for you and then maybe report back here.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 05:13 AMTiger Baron

I was unable to download the Winter Balance Patch due to Relic's Brilliant download system so I am unaware of any minor nerfs and buffs, I only remember what I read from the changelog and what I heard others discuss.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 17:27 PMelchino7

WBP didn't touch it. After WFA release and it's required nerf, it has never been use-able early on.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 16:39 PM__deleted__

Also please enlight me how can volley fire be particulary effective

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2017, 21:40 PMKamzil118

I don't want to step into this conversation, but volley fire can be effective if rear echelons are given light machine guns. I am not sure that this strategy is viable in the current meta, but I have stopped a blob of infantry with two-three squads armed with LMGs a few months after the volley fire was nerfed. The LMG sort of boosts the ability to actually suppress units.

Though, I highly doubt that anyone would do that since riflemen with double BARs tend to be much more effective and that most USF players just slap a few Bazookas to the REs.