Relic Winter Balance Preview v1.6 Update

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 23:49 PMMr.Smith

I know it looks shitty. All 3 of us were severely bummed out for a few days when Kyle relayed the bad news, and our motivation wavered for a few days. In the end, however, if you look at the reverted changes they don't really affect the spirit of the solution that this patch is going to give.

The changes that were reverted were mostly about ultra-light vehicles. Sure, those things needed a bit of love. However, due to light-tank changes all light vehicles are in a better place than before. Hopefully with a future update we will be able to reintroduce the things that we've already tested and work.

It's fine that a small cluster of changes makes it into a single patch. The bigger question, however, is when the next patch will hit, and how often there will be patches after that.



Every glaring imbalance we've found, we've also tried to explain it in terms of inconsistencies. I mean, airlanding officer charge bonuses HAVE to be a bug right?

The WBP has already reached peak scope, unfortunately, and no further inconsistencies will be considered by Relic

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 20:07 PMtightrope

WTF is going on? I didn't wait this long for a small patch. This is seriously becoming a joke.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 23:49 PMMr.Smith

I know it looks shitty. All 3 of us were severely bummed out for a few days when Kyle relayed the bad news, and our motivation wavered for a few days. In the end, however, if you look at the reverted changes they don't really affect the spirit of the solution that this patch is going to give.

The changes that were reverted were mostly about ultra-light vehicles. Sure, those things needed a bit of love. However, due to light-tank changes all light vehicles are in a better place than before. Hopefully with a future update we will be able to reintroduce the things that we've already tested and work.

It's fine that a small cluster of changes makes it into a single patch. The bigger question, however, is when the next patch will hit, and how often there will be patches after that.



Every glaring imbalance we've found, we've also tried to explain it in terms of inconsistencies. I mean, airlanding officer charge bonuses HAVE to be a bug right?

The WBP has already reached peak scope, unfortunately, and no further inconsistencies will be considered by Relic

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 18:30 PMle_saucisson_masque

that's the way T1 always worked.

T1 -> good AI, weak Anti vehicle
T2 -> weak AI, good anti vehicle.

that's one of the chore mecanic of coh 2 balance between ost & soviet and it is good to see it again.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 18:48 PMTobis

Wait, so you didn't just pull them out because they were already good and didn't need more testing? You pulled them out because Relic says patch is too big and they can't make it to the final version?

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 05:40 AMVonIvan

First it was early January [Told back in late Nov/Early Dec]
Then it was late January
Then it was early February
A week or so ago I was told it would be March......expecting a mega patch (this patch is half of what a mega patch should be compared to past patches.)
And now this. Though I guess the changes don't mean much.
Flamer hf change is the only nice change I see so far that they kept.
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I feel awful for you guys. Honestly. Kyle must've been pressured by upper management...so I don't blame him. Quin Duffy might've been the culprit.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 07:43 AMProstruppen Ready

So.

No light vehicle overhaul?

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 09:20 AMFrost

And mortars, and ghostings and light vehicles like a T70, Stuart etc which still is a thing. But it's a shame relic just drop that idea

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2017, 22:14 PM0ld_Shatterhand

It's disappointing to say the least. We wait 3 Months when finally see how the patch slowly gains shape and in the middle of this process relic just decides to cut the changes in half. There is no point in "future, sequential updates" if we have to wait another 5 months for the next small update.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 05:44 AMTheMachine

T1 -> decent AI, 0 Anti vehicle
T2 -> very good AI because Maxims, good anti vehicle.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 09:20 AMFrost

And mortars, and ghostings and light vehicles like a T70, Stuart etc which still is a thing. But it's a shame relic just drop that idea

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2017, 10:51 AMJackDickolson

PTRS was removed because we had people starting 100 topics on the subject on a daily basis and 1,000,0000 posts on the WBP threads. It was an odd change and didn't help the SU or the game as a whole. PTRS cons could be a possibility in the future.