Relic Winter Balance Preview v1.3 Update

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2016, 22:47 PMNubb3r

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Couldn't agree more with the last part you wrote. CoH2 is different from vCoH, I get this and this is not an effort to make the game more like vCoH for the sake of it, but resource distribution among strategic points are in comparison watered down and hold very little meaning. It doesn't have to be extreme but I believe that more distinction would add to the game.
For example changing the current distribution from
+5M/+3F, +11M, +7F to something like
+4M/+2F, +15M, +9F or even
+3M/+1F, +17M, +12F.
The math around it is easy, but dependant on the map pool. You just take the average resources on every map and since they are all symmetric you can just divide the results by two and reallocate the distribution in a more distinct manner across the average amount of (dedicated) resource points.

It's just a question whether we believe this is a good thing or not.

Jump back to quoted post22 Dec 2016, 18:39 PMRamps

About cons, would it be cool to add 3x PPSh to cons after, let's say t1 AND t2 are researched, would that overlap the role of guards. Cheers.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2016, 12:00 PMVipper

You can, and faust is available to Ostruppen.

In addition your claim was that Gren have and advantage because their faust has not tech cost. It has it is the T1 building and it is actually a mandatory cost.

If things in your opinion should be equal one should not be able to make conscripts until he researched AT grenades...

Jump back to quoted post20 Dec 2016, 12:44 PMvasa1719

If you play a mod, you know, that flak HT arrive at 4-5 min in the game, its to early.

Jump back to quoted post22 Dec 2016, 16:37 PMDangerous-Cloth

@balance modders

When will the Ostheer Panther be in scope?

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2016, 19:05 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Whenever we see Tier 4 often enough in 1vs1.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2016, 19:48 PMDangerous-Cloth

You won't see Tier 4 often in 1v1 since Panther sucks, panzerwerfer isn't worth it and Brumbahr alone isn't enough to justify Tier 4.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2016, 20:08 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Call-ins > Teching.
Big deal and news to no-one, they are better off adressing first infantry balance and then they can worry about armor, Panther is weak because many games are well decided before you can considering teching up to build one.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2016, 20:49 PMDangerous-Cloth

Agreed. That is why I asked when Panther would be in scope. Happy holidays.

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2016, 08:59 AMMrSotkoGaming

penals right now are way too strong. so you give them ptrs and seeking AT satchels? whaa?? heres my 2 cents. penals make no sense currently. historically they were given the worst equipment, often times given sticks and told to run directly across minefields and at defensive positions. the only rifles they got were the ones they beat out of the hands of germans if they could. so why do they start with an advanced SVT rifle? i think they should start with mosins, and given the option to buy svt rifles with munitions. penals just dont make any sense in this game. why do untrained prisoners defeat volksgrenadiers and grens 1v1?

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2016, 09:29 AMVuther

It was slightly more complex than that - while there were certainly events of shtrafbats being used in manners only slightly less directly than outright being executed anyway, it was still frequent that they would be personally equipped to actually have a chance in an assault against their foes for win-win reconnaissance-in-force - under close supervision, naturally.

Jump back to quoted post24 Dec 2016, 19:48 PMDangerous-Cloth

You won't see Tier 4 often in 1v1 since Panther sucks, panzerwerfer isn't worth it and Brumbahr alone isn't enough to justify Tier 4.