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9 Dec 2016, 20:08 PM
#1
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9 Dec 2016, 20:11 PM
#2
Posts: 2636 | Subs: 17
Every satchel tells a story...
(actually the implementation was an idea of Firesparks, that we were all too keen to try!)
(actually the implementation was an idea of Firesparks, that we were all too keen to try!)
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
9 Dec 2016, 20:26 PM
#3
Posts: 51
Lol sticky satchel and only 35 mun... I think it will ruin the balance very badly 
9 Dec 2016, 20:29 PM
#4
Posts: 2636 | Subs: 17
Lol sticky satchel and only 35 mun... I think it will ruin the balance very badly
It's not sticky-sticky
You aim the new satchel as the ordinary one. If it hits the tank, it stays there. Otherwise, if it misses, it stays on the ground. We did a lot of playtesting with it with Firesparks and Hector yesterday, and it is not very easy pulling this skillshot off with a 10-range.
It's just something fun to make PTRS Penals feel a bit interesting, and not like complete chumps when the heavy panzers arrive.
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
9 Dec 2016, 20:33 PM
#5
Posts: 51
It's not sticky-sticky
You aim the new satchel as the ordinary one. If it hits the tank, it stays there. Otherwise, if it misses, it stays on the ground. We did a lot of playtesting with it with Firesparks and Hector yesterday, and it is not very easy pulling this skillshot off with a 10-range.
It's just something fun to make PTRS Penals feel a bit interesting, and not like complete chumps when the heavy panzers arrive.
Ok thanks for information
9 Dec 2016, 20:37 PM
#6
Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4
Permanently BannedLets make okw ligh vehicles for MP only ? Why not ? Why need change price for luchs ? OKW in both tiers have best light vehicles for all targets, supress, AI, puma, all this into ostwinds or com panther are to strong. But you make its more cheaper. Nice one guys. Try to make more pleasure for axis lovers l2p histeria. Coz all this things dont change facts that thay have problems with another things.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic 
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Relic delenda est
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Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
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Relic delenda est
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Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
9 Dec 2016, 20:40 PM
#7
Posts: 51
Lets make okw ligh vehicles for MP only ? Why not ? Why need change price for luchs ? OKW in both tiers have best light vehicles for all targets, supress, AI, puma, all this into ostwinds or com panther are to strong. But you make its more cheaper. Nice one guys. Try to make more pleasure for axis lovers l2p histeria. Coz all this things dont change facts that thay have problems with another things.
But light vehicles u have mentioned are specialist not all arounded like t70, stuart and AEC...
9 Dec 2016, 20:51 PM
#8
Posts: 13496 | Subs: 1
PTRS Penals
To further emphasize a PTRS Penal squad’s role as a light AT unit, the PTRS anti-infantry damage and accuracy has been reduced to prevent the unit from excelling in both roles. These changes do not affect the PTRS’ performance against vehicles.
I would suggest for the PTRS Penals if possible to change veterancy bonuses because the current one do not fit the role of "light AT unit", big accuracy bonuses do very little vs vehicles but too much vs infantry, nor does the vet 1 ability help vs vehicles. Vet bonuses and abilities should help units to perform their intended role better.
Also increase pop to reduce AT Infantry spam.
Increase XP value to compensate for higher target XP value.
It would probably be simpler and a better solution instead of having an PTRS upgrade to have 2 different units. AI Penals and PTRs Penals.
To further emphasize a PTRS Penal squad’s role as a light AT unit, the PTRS anti-infantry damage and accuracy has been reduced to prevent the unit from excelling in both roles. These changes do not affect the PTRS’ performance against vehicles.
I would suggest for the PTRS Penals if possible to change veterancy bonuses because the current one do not fit the role of "light AT unit", big accuracy bonuses do very little vs vehicles but too much vs infantry, nor does the vet 1 ability help vs vehicles. Vet bonuses and abilities should help units to perform their intended role better.
Also increase pop to reduce AT Infantry spam.
Increase XP value to compensate for higher target XP value.
It would probably be simpler and a better solution instead of having an PTRS upgrade to have 2 different units. AI Penals and PTRs Penals.
9 Dec 2016, 20:55 PM
#9
Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4
Permanently Banned
But light vehicles u have mentioned are specialist not all arounded like t70, stuart and AEC...
How time need t-70 to kill luchs ? Did he wipe it ? nope, its not old stuart.
AEC now are not so good vs infatry, so he close to puma.
Stuart maybe yes, dont test it in new patch.
So 3 allies factions compared to 2 OKW tiers, nots bad for OKW.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
9 Dec 2016, 21:11 PM
#10
Posts: 466
Sticky AT Satchel.
Give it to me NOW !!!!!
Give it to me NOW !!!!!
1. Relic bans, not me. 2. It stands in the rules: If you are banned more often, the duration increase and can lead in the end to permaban 3. The Case is bigger as you guys think. So pls step 1 step away pls. 4. I am not a player in the 4vs4 cup, because of RL work.
9 Dec 2016, 21:19 PM
#11
Posts: 368
I haven't tested the new AT satchel yet, but isn't it possible to make it replace ('upgrade') the vanilla satchel ability once PTRSs are equipped, and differentiate between anti-building and anti-vehicle damage with target tables? It shares cooldown and the cost is the same (IRC), so it might be less cluttered that way.
9 Dec 2016, 21:49 PM
#12
Posts: 509 | Subs: 1
My god, giving ptrs to penals was never a good idea. PTRS should be given to cons as an upgrade in t1. Let penals play their role as an AI unit and cons as an AT unit because with these changes make cons totally stupid to build-so tank hunters doc to pick-.
9 Dec 2016, 22:28 PM
#13
Posts: 911
Its not like OKW needed light vehicle play anyways /s
Imagine my playercard is here
9 Dec 2016, 22:29 PM
#14
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
I would still prefer M-42 in T1 instead of PTRS. You know, more combined arms etc 
9 Dec 2016, 22:34 PM
#15
Posts: 1323 | Subs: 1
Soviets get the good old stickies?
9 Dec 2016, 23:35 PM
#16
Posts: 2807 | Subs: 6
so sticky satchel is still aq timing ability? if so then it's pretty much useless vs more skilled players
9 Dec 2016, 23:36 PM
#17
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
so sticky satchel is still aq timing ability? if so then it's pretty much useless vs more skilled players
Don't worry, I'm sure pathfinding will give Penals opportunities for it more than we could count
9 Dec 2016, 23:52 PM
#18
Posts: 911
Is there any counterplay from a vehicle being buttoned and penals walking up to it and stickying it?
Imagine my playercard is here
10 Dec 2016, 01:14 AM
#19
Posts: 2742
Beautiful work with the Satchel!
It's one of the things I had been trying to create for a while but ran out of time!
Incidentally, I offer ya'll my suggestions in the form of a mod:
Winter Balance Suggestions:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815337507
It's one of the things I had been trying to create for a while but ran out of time!
Incidentally, I offer ya'll my suggestions in the form of a mod:
Winter Balance Suggestions:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815337507
Strategic Territory Points Mod:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=604491510
Classic resource points!
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=604491510
Classic resource points!
10 Dec 2016, 02:54 AM
#20
Posts: 1
So........ how are people supposed to get the achievement "Torched" (Upgrade 30 Penal Battalions with flamethrowers and kill 300 infantry with Penal Battalions)?
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