Grenadier 4-man Squad: A thing of the past.

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 20:15 PMwouren

Wait did you just necro a thread you disagreed with to say that you disagreed with it. That's like punching a bee hive because you dislike bee stings.

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 18:59 PMA big guy 4u

Grens are fine.

Remember, ostheer is a defensive faction!

Since the original factions are stuck in the ''Ostheer defend, soviet attack!'' mentality, I see no grounds to change this.

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 20:46 PMA big guy 4u

Wait so I am supposed to engage in a cover-up of things I don't like?

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 21:10 PMwouren

No I just like bees. Carry on.

Jump back to quoted post16 Nov 2016, 20:15 PMwouren

Wait did you just necro a thread you disagreed with to say that you disagreed with it. That's like punching a bee hive because you dislike bee stings.

Jump back to quoted post17 Nov 2016, 09:06 AMMirdarion

Well, that's better than opening the ten-billionth thread about a topic, so why not use what's there? It's by far not the worst necromancy around here, people are digging out threads that went dead sometime in 2013...

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2016, 06:53 AMBeefSurge

too many things are standardized, and tieing all infantry survivability to RA leads to stale play and an uncontrollable meta. grens should have higher HP per model (say 90) with a RA curve similar to Riflemen.

Jump back to quoted post17 Nov 2016, 18:34 PMJamestownDBQ

Has anyone done a mod to test the impact of 5 man grens without any other changes? The Mirage guy and Mr. Smith talk about mods a lot.

Jump back to quoted post8 Sep 2016, 15:48 PMZombiFrancis

I was a strong proponent of a fifth man for grenadiers for a while.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=405996712
(Spoiler: They're stronger versions of volks and get LMGs. The cost of 280mp isn't enough.)

Not so much anymore, unless Assault grens becomes a unit upgrade that adds the 5th man. That way Ostheer can have their mp40 squad without losing their faust. Different, but maybe not better. I much prefer changes that help alleviate the more underlying issues with the faction or even all the factions.

Improving entity spread in cover and while pathing is critical.

Things that I actually think would help Ostheer immensely:

Recrewing team weapons using 2 men instead of 3 for Ostheer.
Merge ability for Grens (Maybe one that can only be used on team weapons.)
Self-healing medpacks or Sturmpio variety of medpacks.

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2016, 15:21 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Grenadiers with 90 HP would take 12 Riflemen shots to die, while Grenadiers drop a Riflemen model in 5 shots, I don't think that's the solution as this is just one example as how it would mess with Infantry balance as a whole.