I can't bring myself to play this game

• When the game starts, very often the mouse is invisible and tied to the camera so that I cannot do anything in the game except tilting the camera and I have to do a minimize/maximize orgy (ALT+Enter) in order to get my mouse back.
  
• Sometimes the game starts *below* the actual desktop! Only remedy is killing it via task manager. (I am talking about loading into the actual game where you move units and shoot things, not the launch into main menu here.)
  
• Because the mouse is contrained to the CoH2 window even if the CoH2 window is in the background you can't drag the CoH2 window around (goes well in conjunction with the bug above)
  
• The main menu is extremly sluggish. I have a decent rig and get less than 20 FPS in the main menu. Clicking on commander, skins, etc... buttons to bring up the list blocks the entire UI for a couple of seconds. Argh.
  
• No borderless fullscreen mode. For fucks sake.
  
• The game end screen sometimes takes ages to display, particulary when the game lasted longer.
  

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 14:54 PMraw

I tried to play some CoH2 again and the game made sure very quickly that I am too frustrated to continue playing. The game is falling apart at the seams. So many dumb bugs that make the game either outright unplayable or extremely frustrating linger around since launch. To name just a few from the top of my head:

• When the game starts, very often the mouse is invisible and tied to the camera so that I cannot do anything in the game except tilting the camera and I have to a minimize/maximize orgy (ALT+Enter) in order to get my mouse back.
  
• Sometimes the game starts *below* the actual desktop! Only remedy is killing it via task manager. (I am talking about loading into the actual game where you move units and shoot things, not the launch into main menu here.)
  
• Because the mouse is contrained to the CoH2 window even if the CoH2 window is in the background you can't drag the CoH2 window around (goes well in conjunction with the bug above)
  
• The main menu is extremly sluggish. I have a decent rig and get less than 20 FPS in the main menu. Clicking on commander, skins, etc... buttons to bring up the list blocks the entire UI for a couple of seconds. Argh.
  
• No borderless fullscreen mode. For fucks sake.
  
• The game end screen sometimes takes ages to display, particulary when the game lasted longer.
  

It has been 3 years by now and all these annoyances are in sum so offputting that I can't bring myself to play 1-2 games after I quit in frustration again. I love this game and want to play it but I just can't anymore. Why can't you just make this game *work*, Relic?

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 14:59 PMGdot

Hmmm, it's no secret Relic hasn't optimized the game much, but some of these issues seem rather localized. This is the first time I've heard some of these issues at all.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 14:54 PMraw

• When the game starts, very often the mouse is invisible and tied to the camera so that I cannot do anything in the game except tilting the camera and I have to do a minimize/maximize orgy (ALT+Enter) in order to get my mouse back.
  

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 15:40 PMTobis

Yo, you just need to hit the alt key. For some reason it gets stuck on in the loading screen(alt-tab issues maybe?) and you just need to hit the rotate camera button to fix it. Pretty funny that you've been doing alt+ enter the whole time and coincidentally fixing it.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 15:38 PMraw

I am not really interested in discussing the existance of the bugs I named. I could easily make this list a lot longer with a bit of effort. These are just the issues that jumped to mind most quickly because they are haunting me constantly since the launch of the game and Relic already knows about them anyway.

The point I am making is that the technical execution of CoH2 3 years after launch is at an all time low and for me it has reached a point where I would call it unacceptable. And I know I am not alone on that. Relic should *really* consider investing some time and money smoothing the game out instead of half-assed content updates for ingame loot (why that completely irrelevant system was prioritized over basic technical fixes is completely beyond me).

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 14:54 PMraw

• When the game starts, very often the mouse is invisible and tied to the camera so that I cannot do anything in the game except tilting the camera and I have to do a minimize/maximize orgy (ALT+Enter) in order to get my mouse back.
  
  See my below fix and see if that helps this issue too.
  
• Sometimes the game starts *below* the actual desktop! Only remedy is killing it via task manager. (I am talking about loading into the actual game where you move units and shoot things, not the launch into main menu here.)
  
  This happens sometimes when you alt-enter. See blow
  
• Because the mouse is contrained to the CoH2 window even if the CoH2 window is in the background you can't drag the CoH2 window around (goes well in conjunction with the bug above)
  See below
  
• The main menu is extremly sluggish. I have a decent rig and get less than 20 FPS in the main menu. Clicking on commander, skins, etc... buttons to bring up the list blocks the entire UI for a couple of seconds. Argh.
  #lelicproblems
  
• No borderless fullscreen mode. For fucks sake.
  This should fix your issues:
  
  Go to set launch options in steam>library>Company of Heroes 2>Properties>SetLaunchOptionsand add these commands:
  
  
  Code

  -nomovies -window -fullwindow -forceactive -lockMouse

  
  
  That should remove all the wierd window issues you're having, and should give you borderless fullscreen as well. You might suffer a very slight drops in frames by doing thing this.(just letting it run true fullscreen always gives better frames for me) Let me know if this works.
  
  
• The game end screen sometimes takes ages to display, particulary when the game lasted longer.
  The new war spoils thingy sucks dick, cant argue there
  

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 18:20 PMCookiezNcreem

I have a few fixes:
The main menu is extremly sluggish. I have a decent rig and get less than 20 FPS in the main menu. Clicking on commander, skins, etc... buttons to bring up the list blocks the entire UI for a couple of seconds. Argh.
#lelicproblems

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 20:14 PMTiger Baron

you have no idea how many 12 year olds with NASA computers I've seen complain on the forums.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 20:51 PMraw

Are you talking about yourself? Because I am 30 and bought the PC from the money I earned through my job. Not that it matters where the money for the PC comes from to make Relic's buggy mess any more valid.


@sherlock, deleting the videos helps a little but I don't think it will survive the next patch.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 20:51 PMraw

Are you talking about yourself? Because I am 30 and bought the PC from the money I earned through my job. Not that it matters where the money for the PC comes from to make Relic's buggy mess any more valid.


@sherlock, deleting the videos helps a little but I don't think it will survive the next patch.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 14:54 PMraw

Why can't you just make this game *work*, Relic?

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2016, 21:02 PMsherlock

It won't sadly. With the next patch it will redownload these in all likelihood, which is why I'm trying to figure out how to create files one could use to replace the capped videos from Relic. One could also simply write a macro to delete the files after every patch. For me deleting these files is worth it since it does improve the menus for me quite a bit. I made relic aware of this issue and even gave them suggestions to solve it, they acknowledged it but didn't do anything so far unfortunately, but maybe we'll see something in the future